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多市10月二手房价跌13%销量跌35%

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 18:50:57 | 只看该作者

GTA home resales crash in November

Transactions in first half of month off nearly 44% from last year; biggest price declines in inner city
November 20, 2008

http://www.yourhome.ca/homes/article/540073
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发表于 2008-11-20 19:04:34 | 只看该作者

无房户们也未必就会喜欢闻DELL-3P眼的鬼屁!


无房户们也未必就会喜欢闻DELL-3P眼的上述鬼屁!DELL-3P眼幸灾乐祸的不仅在于房产市场,而在于整个经济市场,工作市场。DELL-3P眼狂吠如果得逞了,无房户们也不会有好了,可能还是先被裁掉的呢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 19:07:20 | 只看该作者

那个楼上的叫什么来的,建议你把网名改一改,还有就是少一点谩骂

谢谢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 20:44:14 | 只看该作者

中文媒体的相关报导终于出来了:

地产市场18年来最差!大多区屋售巨跌50%

【多伦多信息港】星报与美联社综合报导,多伦多地产重售市场正面对自从1990年代以来最不济的市道。多伦多地产局(Toronto Real Estate Board)周三公布的数据显示,大多伦多地区11月份头15日出售了1,991间房屋,与去年同期的3,544间比较,跌幅几乎达到50%。

分析员表示,这是金融市场紧张所带来的直接影响。本月的数字是全球信贷危机开始以来在地产方面的最显着改变,令到多市本年至今的销售数目开始回落至过去十年来地产蓬勃期之前的水平。

本年至今的交易宗数由去年同期的84,994宗下跌至70,474宗。

自从11月1日至今,市中心有830间民居转手,而去年同期则有1,643间。

多伦多地产分析员邓凌(Will Dunning)表示,多伦多不少地产依赖金融市场及金融服务行业,因为会计师及金融服务业的从业员购买市中心的物业。

潜在买家信心跌

他说,金融环节普遍不明朗,令到潜在买家信心下跌。

他认为,消费者可能于10月中左右已开始没有信心。

905区的交易由1,901宗减少至1,161宗。

大多伦多地区的平均屋价也告回落,由去年11月的393,084元减少至目前的375,712元,而市中心的平均住宅价格下跌了超过32,000元。

不过,多伦多地产局主席奥妮尔(Maureen O'Neill)表示,业主不用担心本身的房屋跌价。

她不认为屋价将会大幅下滑,但市道也不会上扬。她表示,目前缺乏信心,但信心将会恢复。

她又认为,现在消费信心确实出现了问题,实际上,所有的经济基础仍然健全,但人们收看美国有线新闻网(CNN),了解了太多的负面消息,因而对时局採取了观望态度。

邓凌则表示,交易宗数或在夏季回升,但恐难以重上2007年夏季的水平。他指出,多伦多电脑交易盘的楼盘由一年前的20,173个增加至27,562个,因而对买家有利。

另方面,美国的新屋建造上月下挫至近50年来的最低水平。

美国商贸部表示,新屋及柏文10月份的建筑下跌4.5%,以年率计算,由9月份经修改的828,000个单位下降至791,000个单位。

这是政府纪录追溯至1959年1月以来的最低数字。
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发表于 2008-11-20 21:05:47 | 只看该作者
坏消息一个接一个,那个LESBINE经纪不崩溃不行了,之前只是上网乱骂无房户,现在估计是提着手枪在房间里串来串去嘴里还念叨着“屁眼屁眼”什么的.......他家里人都是躲在各自房间不敢出来.....   
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 21:12:47 | 只看该作者

看看英文网友们对多伦多地产局主席奥妮尔发言的评论吧!

We are paying for our past sins
O'Neil makes those types of comments so that the 25,000 plus members of the Toronto Real Estate Board do not all quit the business at once. We all know better, but she says what she has to say. The market has been totally out of control for the past several years. Buyers would pay practically any price if they wanted a particular house. Now things are different and those who bought a home at any price are forced to face the music. Sanity will return, and every indication is that it won't be any time soon. When go all go on "drunken sailor's binge", we end up paying for it soon or later.

Posted By JohnToro at 6:45 PM Thursday, November 20 2008

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Irresponsible and Unprofessional
If you look at the TREB's website where they post their bi-monthly press releases you will see TREB has been spinning tales all year long. Blaming everything from snow falls to now CNN. I think it's very unfortunate that an organization with such access to market resources and their own stats would resort to this.

Posted By EastResident at 5:47 PM Thursday, November 20 2008

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Dangerous Market
All the economic fundamentals are sound? No way! This is what you get when you put Sarah Palin in charge. The economic is too weak and volatile to make a commitment as big as purchasing a home. Even if one has a stable job, the chance of buying a home today; putting down a reasonable down payment; and be under the water in the very near future is just too great. Bizarre how O'Neill mentioned "I don't think people will see HUGE declines from here in their house prices…” Given the steady increase inventory of unsold homes combined with sharp decline of number of homes sold; in addition the increase time homes are remaining on the market (41 days now versus 31 days in 2007), one must wonder, instead of relying on the actual data that, ironically comes from her own press release, what O'Neill is basing her theory on. But I think O'Neill was very careful when she used the word “huge”. Essentially she is saying when the prices decrease; it is just simply a decrease – not a “huge” one.

Posted By gomonova at 3:54 PM Thursday, November 20 2008

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Positive outlook
I personaly agree with O'Neil , people will buy and numbers will go back .We have to stay positive ! Is not it enough of negative inflated news out there !Why dont you look at this market as an opportunity for a lot of people to become a homeowners with such a low intreset rate . Do not forget its not only a price of the home important , but how much is your mortgage as well .What about 11% or 18 % of mortgage , that people have paid in 90th . By being negative and mad will not help us to get out from the situation we are in.

Posted By Iryna Galevska at 1:46 PM Thursday, November 20 2008

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fundamentals are not strong
O'Neil is trying her best to hold the fort but it's futile. She seems out of touch with what's going on in the real world and doesn't seem to know or understand what economic fundamentals mean. People will not start buying any time soon when there are job losses and uncertainty in the market. My company is about to close up shop and over 100 jobs will be lost in the GTA, tell me how we have a strong fundamentals?. Everytime she says something it sounds more and more ridiculous, uninformed, misleading and quite frankly, unprofessional.

Posted By BobSaccamano at 10:54 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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o'neil is a joke
people, the faster you quit listening to o'neil the more money you will have in your pockets. Her comments are irresponsible and will only put people in larger debt if they listen to her. THE HOUSING MARKET IS INFLATED period. The market started slowing down earlier this year, prior to the problems we are facing today. A townhouse I sold in May for $272k is now fetching $240k at best. The market will decline alot more, We will probably see prices as we seen back in the early 90's..the economy has far more issues this time then back then. Don't hate but appreciate my comment.

Posted By king dudley at 10:20 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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houses inflated
it's about time we see some adjustment here, houses should not increase anymore then inflation. This 10% increase yoy was nonsense..whoever believed that this trend was to continue needs to learn basic economics.

Posted By king dudley at 9:32 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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O'Neill's comments are wrong and irresponsible
O'Neill is completely ignoring the fundamentals of this current economic cycle. She is giving the impression that this market will turn around and continue climbing imminently. She states,"...but the market's not going up yet" and "we'll see the numbers go back up". This could take a very long time, given the global recession from which Canada is certainly not immune. Her comments are irressponsible and plainly wrong.

Posted By GreatMedia at 8:59 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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earth toTREB earth to TREB
I can only wonder how Brett could stop himself laughing while interviewing Maureen O'Neill saying the economic fundamentals are sound but its just bad old CNN stirring up troubles. I suggest Ms O'Neill get in her car and drive to Oshawa or Oakville and ask autoworkers if the fundamentals are sound. She then my want to talk to some Bay Street types. Finally she may want to ask some media types who work in place like Global or CTV. Ms. O'Neill's power of positive thinking may (or may not) work in a sales meeting...but as a comment to the media, she conveys the message that realtors are just sleazy sales people not to be trusted

Posted By dogguy at 7:52 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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My prediction
I am not a real estate agent, but I predict that there are going to be a lot of empty homes up for sale at very cheap prices, in the future. When people lose jobs, as many are, in every sector, and can no longer afford some of the huge mortgage payments some of them have taken on, they will simply "walk away" and let them be repossessed.

Posted By Mrs. McWho at 6:59 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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"all the economic fundamentals are sound"
head for the hills when you hear that**

Posted By gonzo at 6:38 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

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simple math
If transactions go up 50% from 2006 to 2007 then they have to come down 30% from 2007 to 2008 to be back at the same level as 2006. So if transactions are really up 24% from 2006 then they should be down less than 24% (not at 44%) from 2007 to balance things again. The land transfer tax was not the whole reason. Someone needs to go back to school for some remedial math.

Posted By Richard L at 6:15 AM Thursday, November 20 2008
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发表于 2008-11-20 21:24:16 | 只看该作者

我比你们忙呀!没有时间!你们 这几个弱智!

谢谢。

帮你贴一篇,小MM。但是比较一下人家说的降3万,你的数字好像有点不准,不是夸张了吧?!

Housing slowdown speeds up
http://www.thestar.com/article/537438

“......the value of an existing Canadian home is worth $30,000 less than a year ago......”
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发表于 2008-11-20 21:28:45 | 只看该作者

回复:无房户们也未必就会喜欢闻DELL-3P眼的鬼屁!

无房户们既然可能先被裁掉
你這時候忽悠他們買房子不是缺德嗎?
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发表于 2008-11-20 21:30:34 | 只看该作者

我自己是无房户,会骂无房户吗?骂的是拍砖家!

坏消息一个接一个,那个LESBINE经纪不崩溃不行了,之前只是上网乱骂无房户,现在估计是提着手枪在房间里串来串去嘴里还念叨着“屁眼屁眼”什么的.......他家里人都是躲在各自房间不敢出来.....   

如果真有枪,一定让你笑着go to the hell below。   
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 21:41:02 | 只看该作者

回复:我自己是无房户,会骂无房户吗?骂的是拍砖家!

没枪的人讲话也这么粗,后果很严重。
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发表于 2008-11-20 21:48:12 | 只看该作者

51上闭着眼睛瞎放屁,无中生有的SB真还不止一个、两个!


51上闭着眼睛瞎放屁,无中生有的SB真还不止一个、两个!nogood eyes?
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发表于 2008-11-20 22:03:11 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:我自己是无房户,会骂无房户吗?骂的是拍砖家!

没枪的人讲话也这么粗,后果很严重。

别急,可以把你一起干。枪不是问题,你们愿意就行!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-20 22:03:24 | 只看该作者

对比的参数不一样:它是与一年前对比,我的是与今年的最高价对比

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发表于 2008-11-20 22:06:03 | 只看该作者

回复:对比的参数不一样:它是与一年前对比,我的是与今年的最高价对比


自己坦白出如何夸张的窍门了!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-21 18:09:35 | 只看该作者

回复:[转贴]要买房的注意了,历史数据表明:房子暴跌的过程应当是这样的!

  看到1929年美国大股灾当中房地产的相关资料。资料上说:美国1929年股市崩溃,但股市跌幅最大却发生在1932年,因为1932年美国房地产崩溃了。也就是说:30年代的美国是股票崩溃将近3年的时候,房地产才崩溃。再看看日本的情况,日本1990年股票崩溃,1992年房地产才崩溃,时间跨度也是两年。    
  股票崩溃的金融危机要一年的时间才能转化成实体经济危机,而实体经济危机需要又一年的时间才能消灭光有钱人的现金,而有钱人缺乏现金后,就不得不变卖房子换成
  现金来维持他们正常的生活所需。这就表明中国房子爆跌的次序是:2008年股票崩溃,2009年实体经济崩溃导致大批企业倒闭和出现大量失业房奴。2010年,倒闭企业老板和失业房奴因为缺乏现金去购买生活必须品,不得不把他们唯一剩下的资产房子卖掉,而没有房子却打算买房的钢性需求也因为失业而丧失了购买房子的能力或者无限期推迟买房,这导致房地产在2010年全面崩溃,不论国*家如何救市,都无法阻挡这个过程的发生。当年的美国和日本都是这样发生的,中国会例外吗?答案是中国也不例外,因为美国人、日本人不会比中国人傻!!!
  另外,美国房地产崩溃后,连续底部横盘了70年都没涨,一直到2001年才开始上涨,而在此期间,美国股票上涨超过200倍。日本房地产连续下跌18年,连反弹都未曾出现过,而日本股票在过去18年还是有过两次大反弹的。
  香港股票在1997年金融危机后,于2007年达到1997年历史高点的两倍,而香港房地产反弹的高点却远远低于1997年的历史高点,现在香港股票和房地产又开始同步下跌了。
  从以上三个历史数据可以看出:房地产泡沫一旦破裂,就很难再上涨回去,而股票这点就比房地产强多了,不过房地产上涨的时候,往往比股票泡沫大,这也可能就是房地产再次上涨的力度远小于股票的原因。
  所以,想买房的话,还是耐心等5年到10年后再说吧。不要在最近这两三年买到中国房地产的头部去。
  还有要说明的是:不要相信那些中国人很有钱的鬼话,我的一个朋友在证券公司工作,能清楚看到上万个股民的资产情况,中国的有钱人,他们的现金都在股票上亏光了。他们所谓的财富基本都是以企业和房子的形式存在,他们根本没有多少现金了,所以当他们缺乏现金去维持正常的生活所需的时候,就不得不去卖房子和企业来换取现金。而2009年的经济危机会让这一切在2010年都变成活生生的现实。
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