加拿大政坛混战 安省汽车业终受重视

TianSheng

NDP作为反对党有一定的作用，这次大选我就选了NDP，但上台执政就不太合适，其经济政策理念是灾难性的。
自由党搞经济历史上最在行，但国民现在对他的信任度不高，其政策的执行难度很大，难以在当今如此复杂的经济状态之下让加拿大获取最大的利益。
保守党代表了大资本家经济，当前取得了国民的相对信任，名至所归，当前保守党最重要的就是以不变应万变，千万不可提出所谓进取的计划，比如给三大烂输血之类的，主要观察美国的动向，争取投入最少，获得最大的收益。当然当前还要拿一些精力与三个代表作坚决的斗争，决不能让他们的诡计得逞。
其实保守党政府无为而政不是什么坏事，加拿大的经济状况最好，银行业稳健，汽车业还有日本车撑着，一旦扩张完全有可能吸收三大烂留下的烂摊子，没必要挤在美国前面随意撒钱。


基本同意你的观点。不过，我想知道既然你知道NDP上台执政就不太合适，其经济政策理念是灾难性的。却要把选票投给NDP，为什么？

宝马7

保守党应坚持自己的原则，现在还不到出手的时候。

现在要做的就是减税和削减政府部门的开支并适时地加大在基础建设的投入。一点的赤字没什么在不了。一时的动荡也没什么。

联合联盟连民主党自身都无法团结，它们还能为经济做出什么好动作？

目前全球经济衰退，加拿大的经济相对还是相当不错的，目前不应该向工业界大把撒钱，而是消减支出，减企业税，让企业有活力应对危机。到了的确需要刺激经济的时候，用基建投资拉动需求，同时降低利率，用货币政策和财政政策刺激经济。至于汽车业，美国三大基本没救了，与其投钱救济，不如用部分政府资金吸引日本，韩国车厂到安省开厂，解决失业员工就业问题。
经济危机，也是很好的机遇来提高企业和政府的运营效率，以前的一些混混应该下岗了。本人对保守党削减政府支出和禁止公务员罢工深表支持。希望保守党挺住！！！

新猪

基本同意你的观点。不过，我想知道既然你知道NDP上台执政就不太合适，其经济政策理念是灾难性的。却要把选票投给NDP，为什么？


刚好我们那个选区的NDP候选人是个华裔，我想我的一票可微小地促进华裔出来竞选。
当然NDP作为下层的某些方面的代言我是鼓励的，不然难以照顾甚至损害工人阶级的利益。

TianSheng

刚好我们那个选区的NDP候选人是个华裔，我想我的一票可微小地促进华裔出来竞选。
当然NDP作为下层的某些方面的代言我是鼓励的，不然难以照顾甚至损害工人阶级的利益。


明白了，谢谢！

ewboy88

NDP作为反对党有一定的作用，这次大选我就选了NDP，但上台执政就不太合适，其经济政策理念是灾难性的。
自由党搞经济历史上最在行，但国民现在对他的信任度不高，其政策的执行难度很大，难以在当今如此复杂的经济状态之下让加拿大获取最大的利益。
保守党代表了大资本家经济，当前取得了国民的相对信任，名至所归，当前保守党最重要的就是以不变应万变，千万不可提出所谓进取的计划，比如给三大烂输血之类的，主要观察美国的动向，争取投入最少，获得最大的收益。当然当前还要拿一些精力与三个代表作坚决的斗争，决不能让他们的诡计得逞。
其实保守党政府无为而政不是什么坏事，加拿大的经济状况最好，银行业稳健，汽车业还有日本车撑着，一旦扩张完全有可能吸收三大烂留下的烂摊子，没必要挤在美国前面随意撒钱。


其实保守党政府无为而政不是什么坏事，加拿大的经济状况最好，银行业稳健，汽车业还有日本车撑着。

------- 保守党外交内政都是白痴。刚有7万人失业，CIBC损失50％利润，3大车厂求援，现在还说加拿大经济状况最好，银行业稳健，汽车业还有日本车撑着。你的意思是不是如果日本也不行了，还有火星人撑着？

ewboy88

这个问题还用争吗?看看大选结果分布图,保守党的落选区都是垃圾移民和穷光蛋的密集区.


移民和穷光蛋就没有投票权了？你的言论充分暴露了保守党的白人至上的种族主义，你是不是自由党的卧底？

东方华

如果在这场危机中Stephen Harbar表现不错，他领导的保守党将成为多少政府。

ewboy88

如果在这场危机中Stephen Harbar表现不错，他领导的保守党将成为多少政府。


HARPER的表现已经很不错，很到位了 :p

Dannyh

this is canada,we all greedy on money,from public servants to general labours. what we can do if we want to live together.
you have not choice as I.

I am a member of union.  what I want to say? if all canadians work as our country people(not managing as our country) we will all happier than today. the three automaker should go hell for their own fault.

we talk together one day, my people told me a story about ford, one guy who are worker in ford just put three screws on the panel that should put four on.  I know GMC should go to hell as Ford from that day when I went to look the inner of  a GMC luxry SUV.


Also I buy a USA car.

加国的云

Then, are you or is someone you know affected by the auto industry decline right now?

Canada produced 2.6 million vehicles last year. The country's auto industry directly employs about 135,000 people, according to the Canadian Auto Workers union. Hundreds of thousands more people across the country have auto sector spinoff jobs.

But that number is in decline as the industry struggles with high gas prices, an uncertain U.S. economy and unstable stock markets. Ontario, the centre of Canada's auto industry, has been especially hard hit by years of industry cutbacks and layoffs.

加国的云

How many people who were laid off in Ontario?

2008

Feb. 27. BMW announces plans to cut 5,600 jobs by the end of 2008. Most of the job cuts are in Germany.

Within the European Union, an estimated 2.3 million people are directly employed by the auto industry.

April 28: General Motors to cut 3,500 jobs by scaling back shifts at four North American assembly plants. As many as 970 people in Oshawa, Ont., are affected. Full story.

May 12: General Motors says it will close a Windsor, Ont., transmission plant by 2010. As many as 1,400 people to lose their jobs. Full story.

June 3: General Motors assembly plant in Oshawa announces as many as 2,600 people could be laid off when a pickup truck plant closes in 2009. Full story.

June: Volvo cuts 2,000 jobs worldwide.

June 18: Magna auto parts plant in St. Thomas, Ont., cuts 400 jobs. The company makes frames for GM trucks. Full story.

June 19: Formet automotive parts plant in St. Thomas, Ont., announces 400 people to be laid off.

June 27: Mitsubishi announces plans to cut 105 workers and 10 per cent of its output in the U.S.

July 8: Fiat, Italy's largest automaker, announces plans to scale back shifts at six of its Italian assembly plants.

July 15: GM announces plans to cut its white-collar workforce, spending on marketing and more production cutbacks, saving $15 billion US by the end of 2009.

Six companies build vehicles in Canada:

    * GM
    * Ford
    * Chrysler
    * Toyota
    * Suzuki
    * Honda

July: Sterling Truck plant in St. Thomas, Ont., cuts 720 jobs.

Aug. 6: Toyota lays off 800 workers at Japanese production plant. Blames sinking North American sales.

Aug. 28: Auto parts plant Linamar Corp. of Guelph, Ont., announces it will cut as many as 500 people from its 12,000-strong workforce. Full story.

Aug. 29: Toyota announces temporary production cuts to plants in Britain and Turkey.

Sept. 6: Toyota delays full production at SUV assembly plant in Woodstock, Ont.

Sept. 9: French automaker Renault to cut 6,000 European jobs by 2009.

September: U.S. auto sales crash, plunging 27 per cent from the same month a year earlier.

Oct. 8: Volvo cuts 4,000 jobs worldwide.

Oct. 13: Nissan announces it will cut 1,680 jobs at an assembly plant in Barcelona, Spain; published reports say Volkswagen-owned Spanish carmaker Seat to lay off 4,700 autoworkers and tire-maker Bridgestone to cut 2,800 jobs from two Spanish plants.

Japan produced 11.6 million vehicles in 2007, while the U.S. produced 10.8 million.

Oct. 14: Daimler Trucks to lay off 2,300 employees in Ontario and Portland, Ore.; Ontario's Sterling Truck announces it will shut down in less than one year, throwing 1,300 people out of work.

Oct. 16: General Motors says it will lay off 1,600 employees at three assembly plants in Michigan and Delaware.

Oct. 20: 100 employees laid off from Ford assembly plant in Oakville, Ont.

Oct. 21: Nissan announces production cuts in U.S., Japan and Spain.

Oct. 23: Volvo to cut 850 jobs at its construction equipment unit in Europe. The announcement follows an earlier cut of 1,400 workers at truck plants in Belgium and Sweden.

Oct. 23: Chrysler to cut 1,825 factory jobs in the U.S.; GM announces it will cut 5,000 jobs, cuts benefits.

Oct. 24: Chrysler announces it will cut 25 per cent of its salaried workforce.

Nov. 7: Ford to cut 10 per cent of its North American salaried workforce costs by the end of January. The cuts could mean the elimination of roughly 2,260 white-collar jobs. Full Story.

Nov. 7: General Motors says it will temporarily lay off about 3,600 workers, including 500 at its plant in Oshawa, Ont., as it slows vehicle production. Full Story.

Nov. 10: General Motors cutting another 1,900 workers at parts stamping, engine and transmission factories in North America. Full Story.

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Dannyh

I will buy another USA car if all cars that made in USA and Canada are made by the peoples with very high grade of conscience. but it is negative answer.

whose fault is this?
we know GMC,Ford and Chrysler bear more than Korea and Japanese. we just know the workers in Ford,GMC and Chrysler get more than Honda,Toyota and Nissen. that is true,because Union to pretect the union member. I want all member of working force have been protect by government but government do want to. we all know this time of recession have be formed by "so call" geniuses who are get more money than all workers worked in auto maker. who have been standing up to say laid down their salary? who are making wealth to the country? all labors that included auto workers.
if we can have high quality of car even more higher that imported car  and other brandnames's car. we still have the problem of economic because of the financial ceo.

weichen2005

NDP作为反对党有一定的作用，这次大选我就选了NDP，但上台执政就不太合适，其经济政策理念是灾难性的。
自由党搞经济历史上最在行，但国民现在对他的信任度不高，其政策的执行难度很大，难以在当今如此复杂的经济状态之下让加拿大获取最大的利益。
保守党代表了大资本家经济，当前取得了国民的相对信任，名至所归，当前保守党最重要的就是以不变应万变，千万不可提出所谓进取的计划，比如给三大烂输血之类的，主要观察美国的动向，争取投入最少，获得最大的收益。当然当前还要拿一些精力与三个代表作坚决的斗争，决不能让他们的诡计得逞。
其实保守党政府无为而政不是什么坏事，加拿大的经济状况最好，银行业稳健，汽车业还有日本车撑着，一旦扩张完全有可能吸收三大烂留下的烂摊子，没必要挤在美国前面随意撒钱。



是这样的，在经济衰退时，保守党采取减公司税的办法帮助企业。而NDP是加税。他们甚至不知道美国车厂之所以在加拿大设厂的一个原因就是因为这里的税低于美国。

看看大选时自由党是怎么形容NDP的

Dion called the NDP platform "a job killer," because the revenues are based on cancellation of corporate tax cuts.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjo ... 1-af51-02a4293d3a68

这就是自由党,NDP面对经济危机的整套计划。哈哈

weichen2005

虽然联合政府尚未组成，但是自由党和新民主党均表示，他们已经制定了振兴经济的计划，用300亿元刺激日益疲弱的联邦经济。汽车工业，是重点振兴方向之一。联合政府可能有这样那样的问题，但他们至少比保守党政府明确。  

"The NDP can promise you the moon. But they are trying to buy your vote with Monopoly money. They want to pay for all their promises by increasing the burden on our economy," the Liberal leader declared, prompting cheers.

"Jack Layton's old-fashioned socialist mentality is as backward as Stephen Harper's conservative ideology."

Dion called the NDP platform "a job killer," because the revenues are based on cancellation of corporate tax cuts.

无梦

加拿大政府能有多大的作用,不管投多少钱进去都是有去无回.该垮的不如让它早垮.
自由党,新民党都是把人民的税钱不当回事的, 拿公家的钱买自己的人情.
这个作者的文章都是文理不通, 一味无缘由地反保守党,看来只是他和51 有什么特殊关系.



               汽车业有今天， 是大锅饭管理方式的恶果， 无论政府放多少钱也只会继续垮下去， 有钱还是放在可以增值的产业吧。