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法官对李向东发出的隔离令意味着什么?

136#
发表于 2007-6-6 10:00:32 | 只看该作者
在加拿大没有协议离婚,去律师那里,很容易的。
137#
发表于 2007-6-6 10:16:15 | 只看该作者
其实你也不错了,去电台控诉大会都开过了,在51写那么多控诉你老婆的文章,也应该满意了,还要怎样?如果要平权会向你道歉,那么会有很多麻烦,包括给予帮助过你的人麻烦,所有不要再闹了,去湖南电视节目,再找个女人就好了。
138#
发表于 2007-6-6 11:04:07 | 只看该作者

一直关注!

Cananda冬雪, 我一直再看你的个人陈述:, 你写的很诚恳,客观, 虽然你有你的弱点(缺点), 但我相信你本质上还是个好人.木然做了件好事(也为此挨骂), 给你个公众机会, 将你的痛苦抒发一下,但最后一些事还得通过法律解决, 当然除了精力还需花更大财力!

从你的描述中有些事前因后果逻辑上不是很连贯,你的经历已让你精疲力竭,也很让人同情...担心你继续下去会垮掉的...
139#
发表于 2007-6-6 11:19:37 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:回复:我没看出来Sedona错在哪里

最初由[冬雪canada]发布
回复:回复:回复:我没看出来Sedona错在哪里




     看来你是纸上军事家,不了解情况乱放炮。
我在拘押期间没有人能与我说话,(我不懂英语)我怎么知道审理什么案子。
   第二次上法庭不是因为我违法不接触令,是Amnda吴告我威胁她,我说了多少次,你总是错误的混绕,你也不想一想,在平权会没有发影片首映式之前,有谁看到我说过我家的事,是平权会已经伤害了孩子的隐私权,我才站出来揭露的

  另外讲述事实还因为是有一位自称是老袁的知情人编造事实欺骗别人,我才被动的说明事实,这事情总有一个先后顺序吧。
   打官司,我也是无奈之举,不得不走的一步,我早就声明不想与媒体过不去,是平权会的做法让为别无选择。

1. I did not see you understood English in your first court issue, but you knew why you were in the court. In the second court issue, you declared you did not know why you were in teh court since you did not understand English.

Does it make sense to anybody?

2. I did not see too many people on your side, the more you disclosed, the worse your situation would be.

3. I bet you are not able to get custody, probably only access after the restraining order is expired. However, you will probably start with supervised access some time later. Considering what you are doing online, I don't believe you are a great father, sensible, sensitive, or responsible.  The more you are arguing, the more hurts you put on your daughter. This is a common sense for any parent.  It seems to me revenge is more significant than your responsibility of parenting, in your eyes.

4. Restraining order is a restraining order which does tell us something, though not everything.

5. Everyone posting threads here is trying to clarify their understandings probably based on their common sense, logical thinking, life experiences, emotional preferences, work experiences, professional knowledge, and so on. There is not right or wrong in terms of each one's opinions,  we are trying to clarify some ideas and Justice systems in Canada. IF you refuse to take any idea, nor to think about any one of them, it is your problem; however, the readers will have an idea and form their own judegement.
140#
发表于 2007-6-6 11:27:53 | 只看该作者

回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[冬雪canada]发布
说你有病,你别难过!



  如果你是一个女人,现在就上街,拉住任何一个男人就报警,就说他说了威胁你的话,回来再讨论这个问题!

You are still misleading the public!!!!

Read these information:


Q. HOW DO I GET A ONE(restraining order)?

A. A Judge or Justice of the Peace needs certain information before s/he can grant you one of these court orders:

s/he must believe on a balance of probabilities that your fear is reasonable: this means a similar person in your position would be afraid
you cannot make emotional pleas without evidence; therefore, you should:
-   document every time the person stalked you or threatened you
-   keep any evidence of abuse such as hospital records, photographs, etc.
-   in the case of a partner/ex-partner, if applicable, evidence of his mistreatment of your children
-  for peace bonds only, document every time the person damaged your property or threatened to; take photographs, if possible.

2.
.  HOW DO I GET A RESTRAINING ORDER?

A. Usually applications for restraining orders are made as part of a larger court proceeding under the Family Law Act (FLA), but you can apply for just a restraining order. The process can take many months. It will require a formal submission, evidence and a hearing at which both sides can make their claims.

A Judge needs certain information before s/he can grant you a restraining order:

s/he must believe on a balance of probabilities that your fear is reasonable: this means a similar person in your position would be afraid;
you cannot make emotional pleas without evidence; therefore, you should:
document every time the person stalked you or threatened you
keep any evidence of abuse such as hospital records, Photographs, etc.
in the case of a partner/ex-partner, if applicable, evidence of his mistreatment of your children

These info tell us clearly how a vicitim of DV gets a restraining order.


Source: Ontario Women's Justice Network
141#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:07:42 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[daydreaming]发布
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You are still misleading the public!!!!

Read these information:


Q. HOW DO I GET A ONE(restraining order)?

A. A Judge or Justice of the Peace needs certain information before s/he can grant you one of these court orders:

s/he must believe on a balance of probabilities that your fear is reasonable: this means a similar person in your position would be afraid
you cannot make emotional pleas without evidence; therefore, you should:
-   document every time the person stalked you or threatened you
-   keep any evidence of abuse such as hospital records, photographs, etc.
-   in the case of a partner/ex-partner, if applicable, evidence of his mistreatment of your children
-  for peace bonds only, document every time the person damaged your property or threatened to; take photographs, if possible.

2.
.  HOW DO I GET A RESTRAINING ORDER?

A. Usually applications for restraining orders are made as part of a larger court proceeding under the Family Law Act (FLA), but you can apply for just a restraining order. The process can take many months. It will require a formal submission, evidence and a hearing at which both sides can make their claims.

A Judge needs certain information before s/he can grant you a restraining order:

s/he must believe on a balance of probabilities that your fear is reasonable: this means a similar person in your position would be afraid;
you cannot make emotional pleas without evidence; therefore, you should:
document every time the person stalked you or threatened you
keep any evidence of abuse such as hospital records, Photographs, etc.
in the case of a partner/ex-partner, if applicable, evidence of his mistreatment of your children

These info tell us clearly how a vicitim of DV gets a restraining order.


Source: Ontario Women's Justice Network  

总感觉是书呆子风格,与现实社会脱节。那么多的案例完全可以证明冤案的发生,我真的感觉累了!
142#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:28:17 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[冬雪canada]发布
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总感觉是书呆子风格,与现实社会脱节。那么多的案例完全可以证明冤案的发生,我真的感觉累了!

你是聪明人就要想想,为什么你去电台和网上控诉你老婆,可是她一点反应都没有,是她害怕你吗,是她认识到自己的错误吗,以她的性格一定不会保持沉默那么长时间,答案只有一个,她现在有律师在帮助她,不要太多时间,可能平权会的律师会来找你了,你想这件事会那么简单吗,你在电台和网上不停暴露你老婆的隐私,我看没有多长时间可能你又会去坐牢。
143#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:32:33 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[冬雪canada]发布
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总感觉是书呆子风格,与现实社会脱节。那么多的案例完全可以证明冤案的发生,我真的感觉累了!

Does it make sense to get a restraining order as you suggested to

如果你是一个女人,现在就上街,拉住任何一个男人就报警,就说他说了威胁你的话,回来再讨论这个问题!

Does this assumption go through your mind before you type it out? Do you think we can easlily believe in how effective your suggestions are since we don't know too much about the Justice System, particularly how a restraining order is issued?

You are still denying how you got the restraining order. We still did not see your explanations on how got it?

Do you use your mind before you shared with us how you make your girlfriend then conceiving in your very first date?
144#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:34:39 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[ffgg123]发布
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你在电台和网上不停暴露你老婆的隐私,我看没有多长时间可能你又会去坐牢。

Agree, I have the similar concern. Besides, he is not likely to get custody.
145#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:52:17 | 只看该作者
不要用中国的方式了发泄你的不满,在加拿大只有法律,找律师,没有钱找援助,张虹就是一个很聪明的人,不管你们在网上怎么骂她,始终不回应,想想平权会会因为一个女人为他们。拍教育电影而受到自电台和网上的诽谤吗
146#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:52:50 | 只看该作者
我猜李拿到的是一个刑事庭的一年的PEACE BOND而不是家庭法庭颁发的禁令。他的案子可能根本就到去过家庭法庭。无论是PEACE BOND还是禁令,都是未经核实事实而颁发的。一些安省臭名昭著的腐败私立社区去利用他们为自己的牟利服务,只能说他们有异于常人的心与脸皮。
关于寻求法律援助,请大家认真做点调查研究。法律援助只给很少一点钱(少于1/3正常律师收费)。一旦被诬陷,对方得到了靠纳税人人血汗钱高薪供养者们为其工作,而被陷害者则是要自付所有费用,还要养家糊口,加上缴税去供养迫害诬陷自己的对立面。控与被控双方实际处在极不平等的状况。如果双方真正平等,PEACE BOND与禁令的颁发率要低得多。PEACE BOND实际是法庭无事实给被控者定罪,又要给警察面子而颁发的。法庭也知道,如果被控者真要犯罪,仅一介纸张的PEACE BOND毫无用处。考虑到漫漫法路的昂贵与拖拉消耗,许多人含冤接受。如要走法律之旅去抗争,温庭山先生的实例已在那里。八年岁月,钱财耗尽,精疲力竭,仍无结果。我很钦佩温先生的坚毅。
媒体的好处是可告知大众,造成影响,快捷免费。通过了媒体,张虹可至少再留在加国2-3年。
147#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:56:45 | 只看该作者
应为: 他的案子可能根本就没到过家庭法庭.
148#
发表于 2007-6-6 12:56:46 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!

最初由[daydreaming]发布
回复:回复:回复:回复:说你有病,你别难过!



Agree, I have the similar concern. Besides, he is not likely to get custody.


  暴露隐私要坐牢,用中国的假驾照欺骗加拿大不违法,把孩子打伤多次不违法,编造谎言欺骗法官都不要坐牢?
149#
发表于 2007-6-6 13:00:41 | 只看该作者

你说的完全正确!

最初由[GongYiZhiSheng]发布
我猜李拿到的是一个刑事庭的一年的PEACE BOND而不是家庭法庭颁发的禁令。他的案子可能根本就到去过家庭法庭。无论是PEACE BOND还是禁令,都是未经核实事实而颁发的。一些安省臭名昭著的腐败私立社区去利用他们为自己的牟利服务,只能说他们有异于常人的心与脸皮。
关于寻求法律援助,请大家认真做点调查研究。法律援助只给很少一点钱(少于1/3正常律师收费)。一旦被诬陷,对方得到了靠纳税人人血汗钱高薪供养者们为其工作,而被陷害者则是要自付所有费用,还要养家糊口,加上缴税去供养迫害诬陷自己的对立面。控与被控双方实际处在极不平等的状况。如果双方真正平等,PEACE BOND与禁令的颁发率要低得多。PEACE BOND实际是法庭无事实给被控者定罪,又要给警察面子而颁发的。法庭也知道,如果被控者真要犯罪,仅一介纸张的PEACE BOND毫无用处。考虑到漫漫法路的昂贵与拖拉消耗,许多人含冤接受。如要走法律之旅去抗争,温庭山先生的实例已在那里。八年岁月,钱财耗尽,精疲力竭,仍无结果。我很钦佩温先生的坚毅。
媒体的好处是可告知大众,造成影响,快捷免费。通过了媒体,张虹可至少再留在加国2-3年。
150#
发表于 2007-6-6 13:07:32 | 只看该作者

请你去查一查我对张虹事件的观点,回来再说

最初由[ffgg123]发布
不要用中国的方式了发泄你的不满,在加拿大只有法律,找律师,没有钱找援助,张虹就是一个很聪明的人,不管你们在网上怎么骂她,始终不回应,想想平权会会因为一个女人为他们。拍教育电影而受到自电台和网上的诽谤吗

——————————————————————————
   这回你说到点子上了:
“想想平权会会因为一个女人为他们。拍教育电影而受到自电台和网上的诽谤吗 "


   希望她们不要护短!
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