'Sit Down' for Democracy

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民主是长期，艰辛，甚至是痛苦的过程。现阶段应该主动退离现场，防止阴谋者支持的黑帮兹事行凶，为屠杀制造借口。
http://info.51.ca/news/china/2014/10/08/358191.shtml

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Universal suffrage


Universal suffrage (also universal adult suffrage, general suffrage or common suffrage) consists of the extension of the right to vote to adult citizens (or subjects), though it may also mean extending that right to minors (Demeny voting) and non-citizens. Although suffrage has two necessary components, the right to vote and opportunities to vote, the term universal suffrage is associated only with the right to vote and ignores the frequency that an incumbent government consults the electorate. Where universal suffrage exists, the right to vote is not restricted by race, sex, belief, wealth, or social status.

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Hong Kong pro-democracy protests enter second week

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-29494885

Fresh scuffles erupted between pro-democracy activists occupying central parts of Hong Kong and riot police, as the protests entered their second week.

Thousands of people held a rally overnight, defying the Beijing-backed authorities, although by Sunday morning many of the protesters had gone home.

On Saturday Hong Kong's leader warned that police would ensure government offices and schools reopened on Monday.
Activists oppose China's plans to vet candidates in 2017 elections.

During the overnight rally thousands chanted: "Democracy now! Democracy in Hong Kong!" as speakers from the pro-democracy movement urged them to persist in their campaign, AP news agency reported.

The scuffles occurred in the early hours of Sunday in the Mong Kok district, with police using pepper spray against some of the protesters.

Mr Leung's comments came after earlier street fights led to the postponement of talks between the government and the protesters.
Mr Leung said he "strongly condemned" the violence but warned that it was likely to continue unless "social order" resumed.

"The government and the police have the responsibility and resolution to take all actions necessary to resume social order," he said.
He added that the "most urgent thing" was for protesters to allow government staff to return to work and to clear main roads so schools can reopen on Monday.

The BBC's John Sudworth in Hong Kong says that although he did not explicitly threaten to clear the streets by force, CY Leung's message sounded every bit like an ultimatum.
The Hong Kong Federation of Students withdrew from planned negotiations on Friday, accusing the government of allowing gangs to attack protesters, a claim denied by Hong Kong's security chief, Lai Tung-kwok.
Triad arrests
Police on Saturday said they had arrested 19 people who had been involved in the fighting, adding that eight of them had "triad backgrounds".
Correspondents say triad gangs have traditionally been known for drug-running, prostitution and extortion networks but have in recent years become involved in legitimate ventures like property development and finance.

Some are also believed to have links with the political establishment, fuelling accusations that they have been paid by the authorities to stir up trouble.

At the heart of the row between the protesters and the government is China's insistence on tight rules on nominations for candidates wanting to stand for election in 2017.

The protesters say the restrictions mean the polls will fall short of the free elections they are seeking and have called for Mr Leung to step down.

But the central government in Beijing has thrown its full support behind Mr Leung, calling the protests illegal and "doomed to fail".

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Hong Kong democracy timeline

• 1997: UK gives Hong Kong back to China under a 1984 agreement giving it "a high degree of autonomy" for 50 years
• 2004: China says it must approve any changes to Hong Kong's election laws
• June-July 2014: Pro-democracy activists hold an unofficial referendum on political reform; both sides hold large rallies
• 31 August 2014: China says it will allow direct elections in 2017 but will pre-approve candidates
• 22 September 2014: Student groups launch a week-long boycott of classes
• 28 September 2014: Occupy Central and student protests join forces and take over central Hong Kong
• 2017: Direct elections for chief executive due to take place
• 2047: Expiry of current agreements

克 飞

奥巴马滴软了, 学生怎么办?占中三子怎么办?

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不是凡是示威、静坐、抗议都是所谓非法的，是暴徒。最重要的是要看起因。如果联邦保守党指定一个Toronto市长的候选人给Toronto市民选举，可以想象其结果会是怎样？！最大的结果就是，还未等到示威、静坐、抗议，哈珀就得滚下台。

可见，真正造成目前香港示威、静坐、抗议，乃至影响市民生活和学生上学的罪魁祸首正是那些不遵守承偌，使一国两制化为乌有的人。

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豺狼的本性才是导致今天香港混乱的罪魁祸首。

中共中央政治局常委、人大委员长张德江上月15日曾主持中央港澳工作协调小组会，传达中央政治局有关对香港状况的决定，称必要时考虑中止在香港实行“一国两制”。

xuxi

就是因为学生们太天真，认为政府不会对他们怎么样的，不会对他们开枪，所以才有持无恐，胆大妄为，才会被人利用。建议把这个视屏播放给”占中“的 学生看看，让他们知道政府是有可能对他们开枪的，他们知道了这一点后，还坚持这样做，那是真正为了自由而战，没啥说的，随他们去吧。

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就是因为学生们太天真，认为政府不会对他们怎么样的，不会对他们开枪，所以才有持无恐，胆大妄为，才会被人利用。建议把这个视屏播放给”占中“的 学生看看，让他们知道政府是有可能对他们开枪的，他们知道了这一点后，还坚持这样做，那是真正为了自由而战，没啥说的，随他们去吧。
xuxi 发表于 2014-10-5 10:40

就是，任何以暴力夺取政权的绝对、唯一地又以暴力维持此政权。

xuxi

就是，任何以暴力夺取政权的绝对、唯一地又以暴力维持此政权。
老子 发表于 2014-10-5 14:06 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

既然你知道这一点，就发发善心别在鼓动不明事理的小学生娃子去“占中”了，要去你去，不要忽悠不明事理的小学生娃子做无谓的牺牲。要为“民主，自由”牺牲，也应该是你们这些明白大道理的人。所以俺建议支持“占中”的集体集合，去把小学生们替换下来。让小学生们在51上讲讲大话，实际的事情还是由你们去做为好。这样俺就放心了，如果发生不幸你们牺牲了，俺一定号召人们为你们树碑立传。

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既然你知道这一点，就发发善心别在鼓动不明事理的小学生娃子去“占中”了，要去你去，不要忽悠不明事理的小学生娃子做无谓的牺牲。要为“民主，自由”牺牲，也应该是你们这些明白大道理的人。所以俺建议支持“占中”的集体集合，去把小学生们替换下来。让小学生们在51上讲讲大话，实际的事情还是由你们去做为好。这样俺就放心了，如果发生不幸你们牺牲了，俺一定号召人们为你们树碑立传。
xuxi 发表于 2014-10-5 14:47

看看32贴老子怎么说的？？！！

你这个“造谣，耍无赖，打哈哈”的。
http://bbs.51.ca/viewthread.php?tid=584126&extra=&page=4

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