土耳其人 i am glad, because we will get the tech for our own projects in the future. also there will be no restrictions on the missiles/systems. One thing i was worried was if we could trustchinese systems, but i am sure The military and Defence ministry have figured that out. 我很高兴,因为我们未来会在我们自己的项目里得到技术。也没有导弹系统的条件限制。我只有一个担心,我们是否可以相信中国的系统。但是我确信军方和国防部已经考虑过这一问题了。 土耳其人 FD 2000 CONGRULAT企一匀 CH丁A [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
FD 2000,恭喜中国。 印度人 China is the only country other then US to develop Anti satellite weapon and demonstrated the world about thier ability and advancement. So who ever is in doubt about chinese ability should remove the glass of ignorant and search around .Chinese are the only country that will transfer the tech to turkey . But Because Turkey is Nato Member i think they cannot go for chinese system for security concern of nato member . 中国是除了美国以外唯一一个发展反卫星武器的国家,向世界展示他们的实力。 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
所以任何怀疑中国能力的人都应该摘掉无知愚昧的眼镜,好好看看。 中国是唯一一个肯向土耳其转移技术的国家。 但是因为土耳其北约成员,因为北约成员的安全问题,我认为他们不能选择中国的系统。 土耳其人 They already have. The decision for procurement of the Chinese systems has been made today. [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
已经选好了。 今天已经做出了采购中国系统的决定。 土耳其人 What they offered was better then what our "so called" friends and allies were offering, logical result. 他们提供的比我们称为“朋友和盟友”的人能提供的更多,合乎逻辑的结果。 土耳其人 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
I supported HQ-9 from the very beginning, it's a good choice, with this incoming new tech we will move faster about our own system. 从一开始我就支持HQ9,这是个好选择,依靠引进的技术我们自己的系统将发展的更快。 巴基斯坦人 Great choice - HQ-9 with TOT will most definitely benefit Turkey in many ways. 好选择,HQ9在很多方面都对土耳其最有利。 罗马尼亚 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
I never thought things would pan out this way...A NATO country entrusts its main AA system to China... 我从没想过会这样…一个北约国家会放心的将主防空系统交给中国… 土耳其 FD-2000 Export HQ-9 7-24km against cruise missiles 7-50km against air-launched ground attack missiles [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
7-125km against aircrafts 7-25km against PGMs and tactical ballistic missiles And we will get the Tech ,so we will have ability to make our own system in 15-30 Years. Because BMC is now History we can forgot these 8x8 Version : FD-2000 出口型的 HQ-9 7-24km反巡航导弹 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
7-50km反空对地导弹 7-125km反飞行器 7-25km反PGM和战术弹道导弹 并且我们会得到技术。所以我们在15~30年内将有能力发展自己的系统。 土耳其 I would like to see the US or NATO comment on this decision. [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
我想看美国和北约对这个决定的评论。 土耳其 Yeah that's right. It's breaking news in Turkey now, US&NATO is probly shocked about the decision. I'd like to hear Chinese members opinions over that, as well as detailed specs about the system, and the news from Chinese sources. That'd be great if I get them. 没错。现在在土耳其这可是爆炸性新闻。美国和北约可能对这个决定感到震惊。我想要听听中国的观点,特别是关于这一系统的细节,以及中国的新闻。能看到这些就好了。 巴基斯坦 Congrats, having multiple sources for weapons is always a + [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
Also shows how much Chinese weapon systems have matured over the last decade. 恭喜,武器来源多元化一直很重要(译注:武器来源一元化才是根本,那就是自己造)。 也显示了在过去的十年里中国的武器已经多么成熟。 土耳其 I would like to see the pro's and cons in comparison to the other systems. 我想看看与其他系统比较中的支持与反对。 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
印度 So turkey will be the second country after Pakistan to Acquired this system . Bad looking HQ-9 ---> 所以土耳其是巴基斯坦之后第二个获得这一系统的国家。 HQ9不好看。 巴基斯坦 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
Yet better than anything India has ! 回楼上,比印度所有的都要好! 土耳其 i hope one thing. this is not bad china production 我希望一件事,不要是差劲的中国产品。 中国 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
Rest assured,China offers products of varying qualities to suit users with different budgets。 But for Turkey and for a major defence user,you can bet your house on China doing its best and being on its finest。 Apart from affordability,the real good news is that Chinese technologies and systems are fast gaining on its main competitors(US,the EU and Russia)。They are getting better and better。 楼上,放心,中国提供各种质量的产品,取决于不同的预算。 对于土耳其,你可以拿你的房子来打赌中国会做到最好。 除了钱包,好消息是中国的技术正在快速赶上竞争对手(美欧俄)。越来越好了。 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
印度 A good move here. Win-win for all parties involved. The Chinese score an export order, showing their hardware good enough to make even a NATO country acquire them The NATO will have access to a contemporary Chinese weapon system, helping them evaluate it & develop newer counter-measures, if need be. 干得好,双赢的结局。 中国人赢得出口订单,显示了他们的硬件和北约国家提供的一样好。 [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
北约会观察中国同时代的武器系统,帮助他们评估和发展对策,如果需要。 土耳其 I wish we would had chose either Aster-30 or S-300/400 我希望我们选择紫苑30或S300/400。 巴基斯坦 Yes NATO also did a REVERSE ENGINEERING on S-300 (Greece has the S-300). [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
是的,北约也对S300做了逆向工程(希腊有S300)。 土耳其 What I worry about is, the version that the Chinese folks will give us won't be mucheffective as they are not stupit enough to give a system like HQ-9 with ToT to a country in Turkey's position... 我担心的是,中国人不会蠢到给我们的版本与他们使用的HQ9相同,对于土耳其这样的国家所处的位置…(译注:名字就不同,FD2000,HQ-9) 巴基斯坦 What are the basis of your suspicions? [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
楼上,你怀疑的依据是什么? 巴基斯坦 Then why turkey chose HQ-9? What was not present in american or european systems that turkey chose HQ-9? 那么为什么土耳其选择红旗9呢?不是美国或欧洲系统? 加拿大 China's offer is pretty generous - TOT and co-production. [ 转自铁血社区 http://bbs.tiexue.net/ ]
What more can one ask for? 中国的出价更慷慨,技术转让和联合生产。还能要求什么呢? |