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调查显示:90%受访者反对Bill 13法案

 
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-5-16 12:19:57 | 只看该作者
但是在这个问题上,也有做得不好的。比如,不能叫同志(同性恋的别称)。

更不能让胡同志与奥同志干这事:
东方顺 发表于 2012-5-16 13:16


胡同志肯定不是GAY, 奥同志就难说了. 08黑猪头最近大力提倡同性恋话题, 也许这厮想露真相了.
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发表于 2012-5-16 12:21:27 | 只看该作者
回复 6# 炎岩

YOU SOUND SO BEAUTIFUL, WHO WANTS YOU TO STAY HERE? YOU ARE WELCOME TO LEAVE CANADA!
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-5-16 12:23:42 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2012-5-16 12:33:19 | 只看该作者

调查显示:90%受访者反对Bill 13法案

本帖最后由 东方顺 于 2012-5-16 13:34 编辑
胡同志肯定不是GAY, 奥同志就难说了. 08黑猪头最近大力提倡同性恋话题, 也许这厮想露真相了.
加拿大老张 发表于 2012-5-16 13:19


你怎么知道“胡同志肯定不是GAY ”? 你有深入了解情况的机会?:laugh:
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发表于 2012-5-16 12:48:06 | 只看该作者
有证据证明是后天的教育造成同性恋吗?

有证据证明异性恋是天生或后天教育造成的吗?

大大方方地接受和享受就可以了, Whatever,为何自寻烦恼?!

没有断论先有鸡还是先有蛋,我们不是照样大吃鸡和蛋?
BL666 发表于 2012-5-16 10:32



我所知道的一个人就是这样。她本人并非真正的同性恋,但因为人生中某些挫折而与一个同性恋发展成为恋人。同居之后慢慢意识到这并非自己真正想要的,于是离开了她的情人。中间则有很多诸如威胁,自杀,撞车等等麻烦。
当然,这只是个例,虽然和教育系统无关,但可以看出后天的影响。在教育系统中加入相关内容,对后天的影响深度广度只会更大。

另外,即便同性恋是天生的,也不表明就值得推广。人天生有很多东西都是不被赞赏的,比如:自私,撒谎,懒惰等等。
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发表于 2012-5-16 12:54:30 | 只看该作者
既然搞同性恋或异性恋是个人的决定, 安省政府为什么要立法强迫异性恋的小学生必须学习同性恋课程,家长反对就是违法? 这算什么法案? 难道安省自由党想以政府的名义干涉个人自由?
加拿大老张 发表于 2012-5-16 13:07


安省自由党一直都在以政府的名义干涉个人自由。可是安省人却让它连任三届。真想说安省人全是TMD SB。 少数人除外。:eyebrows:
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发表于 2012-5-16 13:02:06 | 只看该作者
安省自由党一直都在以政府的名义干涉个人自由。可是安省人却让它连任三届。真想说安省人全是TMD SB。 少数人除外。
弄舟 发表于 2012-5-16 13:54

赞同你的观点。

就是不知道以什么理由“安省人却让它连任三届“。 只能说安省多少人是.......
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-5-16 13:16:17 | 只看该作者
Please send the following letter to your MPP.
You can look up your MPPs contact information here: http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/members/members_current.do?locale=en

It has come to my attention that Bill 13 – Accepting Schools Act is awaiting a vote after second reading in the legislature.

As a constituent in your riding, I wish to express my sincere concern to you about this bill, and request that you vote against it or to be absent for the vote. My concerns are as follows:

· Although the effort to combat bullying and inequality in schools is appreciated, there seems to be a strong bias in Bill 13 toward the promotion of LGBTTIQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, transsexual, two-spirited, intersexed, queer and questioning) lifestyles over other groups. The preamble of Bill 13 does not explicitly discuss promoting equity for heterosexuals, men, or women, nor does it make reference to protecting against bullying based on religious beliefs, political affiliation or any general association. Why should the government explicitly promote one group above another or to the exclusion of other groups?

· Bill 13 appears to enforce and enshrine fairly new policies and procedures at the school board level across Ontario , which seem to restrict or remove parental rights, the freedom of speech, religion, conscience and association, especially around gender and sexual education in the public education system. Tolerance is the respectful interaction of diverse viewpoints, and moving beyond it to broad-based acceptance will constrict both freedom and equality in schools.

· Pierre Trudeau stated that, “there’s no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation.” Why then is the state using the public education system, even the farthest arm of the state – the Kindergarten teachers, to metaphorically “go into the bedrooms of the children” and teach and legitimize a variety of gender orientations (some of which are sexual in nature). This is evident in the surveys that will take place to see where students are at and to change the teaching to modify the worldviews to legitimize the LGBTQ lifestyles. These surveys are given now in the Toronto District School Board from K-12.

· Bill 13, at a few points, defines bullying in a very broad subjective manner that leaves it open to wide interpretation, with the consequences for such behaviour being student expulsion. Examples of phrases left open to wide interpretation are, (Section 1:1a) “the pupil ought to know that the behaviour would be likely to cause” and “perceived power imbalance” (emphasis added).

· Bill 13 specifically hinders the freedom of speech, religion and association by only allowing groups to rent school space who will conform to the code of conduct within each school board. When a publicly funded Board of Education has a different code of conduct than a public group renting the space, the public group should still be able to meet and freely speak and associate. Each Board of Education should be tolerant and freely permit the variety of beliefs and values held by its public citizens.

· Bill 13 removes freedoms of speech, religion and association by forcing Catholic schools to explicitly promote values, lifestyles and beliefs they do not agree with, which they are entitled to under the Canadian Constitution. It furthermore has the potential to lead to these freedoms being removed from private schools.

· Under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, every Canadian citizen has the following fundamental freedoms: the freedom of conscience and religion (Canada Act 1982, 2A), freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication (Canada Act 1982, 2B), and the freedom of association (Canada Act 1982, 2D). Can the government uphold these rights by permitting freedom for a variety of groups to believe what they want and not promote one group above another?

In light of these concerns, I request that you vote against Bill 13 or be absent for the vote so that this Bill does not become legislation. Instead, I would encourage you to support Bill 14 – Anti-Bullying Act, which seeks to protect all students from bullying (not just some groups), and it does not carry the same limitations on the freedom of speech, conscience, association and religion in the public arena.

Yours respectfully,
cz98aa 发表于 2012-5-10 11:14


抗议信样本有了, 群发给安省议员, 让13号法案不通过..
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发表于 2012-5-16 14:33:38 | 只看该作者
我所知道的一个人就是这样。她本人并非真正的同性恋,但因为人生中某些挫折而与一个同性恋发展成为恋人。同居之后慢慢意识到这并非自己真正想要的,于是离开了她的情人。中间则有很多诸如威胁,自杀,撞车等等麻烦。
当然,这只是个例,虽然和教育系统无关,但可以看出后天的影响。在教育系统中加入相关内容,对后天的影响深度广度只会更大。

另外,即便同性恋是天生的,也不表明就值得推广。人天生有很多东西都是不被赞赏的,比如:自私,撒谎,懒惰等等。
AssKick 发表于 2012-5-16 13:48

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发表于 2012-5-16 14:46:45 | 只看该作者
回复 32# OASIS_2009


    "Who are you?" 我在那里就在那里保护我的孩子,我只希望孩子可以正常的生活,如果安省不合适了,我当然要走。不过加拿大欢迎不欢迎不是你可以说的,如果你有父母爱你的话,先去请教你父母的答案吧。
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发表于 2012-5-16 15:22:02 | 只看该作者
又是一个GAY, 还不会写中文? 你还是别在中文论坛混了.
加拿大老张 发表于 2012-5-16 13:23 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif


I f was gay, then your wife would be lisbian.
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发表于 2012-5-16 17:59:01 | 只看该作者
极毒教家庭伦理同盟是最保守的右翼组织
基本上就是一群joke
华人信教基本上也是加入这类最反动基督教组织
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发表于 2012-5-16 19:03:32 | 只看该作者
抗议信样本有了, 群发给安省议员, 让13号法案不通过..
加拿大老张 发表于 2012-5-16 14:16


群发了。

如果能将所有议员的电邮地址贴出来就好了
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发表于 2012-5-16 19:18:22 | 只看该作者

调查显示:90%受访者反对Bill 13法案

本帖最后由 林家铺子1 于 2012-5-16 20:41 编辑

要表达反对意见请直接给自己选区的省议员写信,查找选区的省议员请复制链接http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/members/members_current.do?locale=en   
点击members(mpps)所打开页面的最下一行有Postal Code Search 点击进入后就可以查到自己属于哪个选区,查到选区点击information on your Member of Provincial Parliament后再把选区按字母先后排列就很容易找到省议员名字,点击名字就能查到他办公室地址。记住before may.22
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发表于 2012-5-16 19:57:39 | 只看该作者
如果同性恋是由天生基因造成的,那你怎么解释很多同性恋会变成异性恋,很多异性恋会变成同性恋,还有很多是一直在变的双性恋? 天生基因造成的不会变的吧
weinberger 发表于 2012-5-16 10:42

大多数人的性趋向是处于绝对同性恋和绝对异性恋之间的某个地方。

在一定社会环境中,人会表现出异性恋或同性恋或双性恋,如果某种性趋向受社会文化或宗教压制,那么,其对应的性趋向就会占主导地位。这也是你说的“很多同性恋会变成异性恋,很多异性恋会变成同性恋,还有很多是一直在变的双性恋”。

建议我们每个人都不带偏见地诚实地深刻检讨一下自己的性趋向,我相信也许不少人会有新发现。不要害怕,天塌不下来。
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