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标题: 加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定 [打印本页]

作者: gonow2008    时间: 2008-10-17 08:03
标题: [评论]加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定
零首付及低首付,
油价暴跌,经济下滑,美国经济危机的影响才刚刚出现。

平均房价比美国高50%以上,
看不出加拿大的房地产市场有什么理由乐观。
作者: 谁舒服 谁知道    时间: 2008-10-17 08:55
"亚历山大继而表示,加拿大享受西部带动的5年房市繁荣期已经结束了。现在,虽然加拿大房产市场会进一步冷却,但是不会遭受美国式的房价崩盘。这对加拿大只是一个循环现象,当2009年末至2010年经济有所发展时全国会再次出现房市高潮。 "

深度赞同,建议有房的,不要紧张,舒舒服服的住着.多伦多是安省的重心,安省是加拿大的经济引擎,天塌不了. 就是加拿大的房产真塌了30%,安省也就20%, 多伦多也就10%. 你没卖,也就只是浮动亏损.
作者: superintendent    时间: 2008-10-17 08:58
标题: 回复:[评论]加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定
零首付及低首付,
油价暴跌,经济下滑,美国经济危机的影响才刚刚出现。

平均房价比美国高50%以上,
看不出加拿大的房地产市场有什么理由乐观。


中国人缺乏正义感, 自己买了房就盼房价涨, 加拿大的房市多是华人抄起来的, 所以中文报纸网站必须"乐观".
作者: superintendent    时间: 2008-10-17 09:05
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深度赞同,建议有房的,不要紧张,舒舒服服的住着.多伦多是安省的重心,安省是加拿大的经济引擎,天塌不了. 就是加拿大的房产真塌了30%,安省也就20%, 多伦多也就10%. 你没卖,也就只是浮动亏损.


要塌, 塌的就是多伦多, 哪涨的凶哪就跌凶, 温哥华带头涨, 现在带头跌. 所以要塌, 塌的就是多伦多!

"30%,20%,10%" 信口开河.
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 09:22
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深度赞同,建议有房的,不要紧张,舒舒服服的住着.多伦多是安省的重心,安省是加拿大的经济引擎,天塌不了. 就是加拿大的房产真塌了30%,安省也就20%, 多伦多也就10%. 你没卖,也就只是浮动亏损.


不看你的眼
不看你的眉
看了心里都是你
忘了我是谁

自慰你的屋
意淫你的房
看得心惊又肉跳
房价又缩水
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 09:29
"道明银行(TD Bank)副首席经济师亚历山大(Craig Alexander)也持相同观点。他表示,多年来房价的不断攀升,已超过一般市民的负担范围。因此,从供求关系来说,房价下跌是不可避免的。不过,这个下跌是市场正常的调节,不是像美国那样的崩盘和“跳水”。 "

有道理!


2006年底的时候,美国地产界也是这么说的“正常”,“有道理”。意淫去吧你。
作者: 阿强    时间: 2008-10-17 09:42
标题: 深表同情
房市进入萧条已经是不容质疑的事实了。手上仍有不少炒房的炒房客和在去年、今年上半年进入房市的人心有不甘是可以理解的。对此大家要对他们深表同情和理解。但这些同胞自己也要有清醒的认识。毕竟,房市的发展是不能被我们所左右的。结合自己的实际情况,该怎么做就该怎么做。做投资,要有自己的主见。

作者: pingpong    时间: 2008-10-17 10:02
标题: 心里难受
年初给好朋友介绍了个经纪。这经纪就是催着成交。去朋友家吃饭,听见他喃喃的说:“买了个”糕点“。原来是”高点“。
我心里难受啊。
作者: 从来没有救世主    时间: 2008-10-17 10:13
标题: 回复:心里难受
年初给好朋友介绍了个经纪。这经纪就是催着成交。去朋友家吃饭,听见他喃喃的说:“买了个”糕点“。原来是”高点“。
我心里难受啊。


高潮不是每一个人都能够享受的
作者: superintendent    时间: 2008-10-17 10:43
标题: 回复:回复:心里难受
高潮不是每一个人都能够享受的


中国人就是改不了"跟风"的习惯, 看别人拉屎就自己屁眼刺闹. 看人家学JAVA, 自己也要学JAVA. 看人家买日本车, 自己也要买日本车, 年初看人家都买"糕点", 自己也要买"糕点". 这回人家都在观望, 不知道中国人跟不跟.
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 10:44
标题: 回复:回复:心里难受
高潮不是每一个人都能够享受的


所以有人要“自慰”说:“这对加拿大只是一个循环现象,当2009年末至2010年经济有所发展时全国会再次出现房市高潮。”
作者: superintendent    时间: 2008-10-17 10:53
标题: 回复:回复:回复:心里难受
所以有人要“自慰”说:“这对加拿大只是一个循环现象,当2009年末至2010年经济有所发展时全国会再次出现房市高潮。”


"当2009年末至2010年经济有所发展"?

我记得大部分中国人都不相信哈巴能使

"2009年末至2010年经济有所发展",

所以如果对哈巴没信心就应尽早做打算了.
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 10:55
至9月份,加拿大的 Average Monthly Selling Price 2008 vs 2007:

http://www.canadian-housing-price-charts.235.ca/images/SEP08-Canada.jpg
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 11:06
Toronto Plunge Annualized = -19.6% (up to Sept, 08):

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/house_cliff.jpg
作者: 从来没有救世主    时间: 2008-10-17 11:11
标题: 回复:回复:回复:心里难受
所以有人要“自慰”说:“这对加拿大只是一个循环现象,当2009年末至2010年经济有所发展时全国会再次出现房市高潮。”


毕竟这么着也高潮乐
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 11:18
标题: 回复:回复:回复:回复:心里难受
毕竟这么着也高潮乐


这个怎么样:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Foreclosedhome.JPG
作者: t1234567    时间: 2008-10-17 11:38
标题: 回复:回复:回复:心里难受
中国人就是改不了"跟风"的习惯, 看别人拉屎就自己屁眼刺闹. 看人家学JAVA, 自己也要学JAVA. 看人家买日本车, 自己也要买日本车, 年初看人家都买"糕点", 自己也要买"糕点". 这回人家都在观望, 不知道中国人跟不跟.


最讨厌日本车!
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 11:51
标题: 心存幻想
有两位在多伦多的友人都是炒房一族,一位炒到卡尔加里。五月底挂出去卖,不想市道急转直下,减价两次没有买主。可怜友人傻呼呼,当初听信经纪馋言,在一个错误的时间、错误的地点、做了一个错误的决定。当然,仓蝇不叮无缝的胆。友人当初若不贪心,就不会成为被蛇引诱的夏娃了,落入炒房一族。

上个星期干脆将挂的牌子撤了。当然,在MLS的网站上还挂着, 幻想明年初会“再一次辉煌”。可见,现在有多少这样的人还心存幻想,类似2006底的美国人。

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作者: nothingbutruth    时间: 2008-10-17 11:58
要塌, 塌的就是多伦多, 哪涨的凶哪就跌凶, 温哥华带头涨, 现在带头跌. 所以要塌, 塌的就是多伦多!

"30%,20%,10%" 信口开河.

非常同意,我不是经纪人,又有房,可能较公正.邻居刚卖掉一镇屋,较年初降约10%,大概05年的价格.
大的房子,尤其是被抄的公寓,涨幅巨大,跌的就可想而知了.
房屋不是流动资产,变现差.你要急卖,亏的就多.
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刚从萨省回来,朋友07年初,17万买的房子,今年5月涨到35万.
大家自己看着办吧!
工资呢,99年低给中介打工10块一小时,现在那个CD包装也就9.5.
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 12:00
标题: 回复:心里难受
年初给好朋友介绍了个经纪。这经纪就是催着成交。去朋友家吃饭,听见他喃喃的说:“买了个”糕点“。原来是”高点“。
我心里难受啊。


你有点儿缺德。心里难受是应该的。   
作者: 谁舒服 谁知道    时间: 2008-10-17 12:07
非常同意,我不是经纪人,又有房,可能较公正.邻居刚卖掉一镇屋,较年初降约10%,大概05年的价格.
大的房子,尤其是被抄的公寓,涨幅巨大,跌的就可想而知了.
房屋不是流动资产,变现差.你要急卖,亏的就多.
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刚从萨省回来,朋友07年初,17万买的房子,今年5月涨到35万.
大家自己看着办吧!
工资呢,99年低给中介打工10块一小时,现在那个CD包装也就9.5.


所以萨省问题大了, 而TORONTO只是小问题.
作者: 无忧了    时间: 2008-10-17 12:21
所以萨省问题大了, 而TORONTO只是小问题.

TORONTO没问题没问题没问题!!!!!一定没问题的!!!!!!! :crying:
作者: pingpong    时间: 2008-10-17 12:53
标题: 回复:回复:心里难受
你有点儿缺德。心里难受是应该的。   


唉...
本来那时俺也在买。只是没买成, 把好兄弟害了. 说来话长...
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 13:55
标题: 回复:回复:回复:心里难受
唉...
本来那时俺也在买。只是没买成, 把好兄弟害了. 说来话长...


!!!这就是卖家“心存幻想”的原因!!!因为你还没有买。。。

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作者: jc999    时间: 2008-10-17 13:56
标题: want to listen to advices from you guys
We live in Oshawa, durham region.
We find a 3-bedroom townhouse near UOIT/Durham college priced at 140K, but it is old.
Just wondering whether buy it or not.
We have done the calculations, it won't cost too much, about 650 per month for finance while extra 240 for condo fee. We now live in a one bedroom apt that already costs us 800 dollars per month.
Can anyone give us some suggestions? Thanks.
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 14:15
标题: 回复:want to listen to advices from you guys
We live in Oshawa, durham region.
We find a 3-bedroom townhouse near UOIT/Durham college priced at 140K, but it is old.
Just wondering whether buy it or not.
We have done the calculations, it won't cost too much, about 650 per month for finance while extra 240 for condo fee. We now live in a one bedroom apt that already costs us 800 dollars per month.
Can anyone give us some suggestions? Thanks.


Oshawa ? are you kidding ?

1) there are a lot auto-workers will be laid-off in next two years as the auto-sector is in recession. Think about it !!

2) Do you know the nuclear power stations in between ? look at this map, you will know why the properties are so cheap in between Ajax and Oshawa..

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作者: 杏儿粒子    时间: 2008-10-17 15:38
我的朋友的孩子写了一篇作文,题目是“如果我能比别人早知道一分钟。。。。”。这篇充满幻想的文章写到:如果我能比别人早知道一分钟,我将会是股市的永久赢家,将会有许多财富。可见能比人家早知道一分钟就会有于此多的好处。此文居然能看到未来加拿大的发展,实在是超人类了。其他就不用说了‘
作者: jc999    时间: 2008-10-17 16:27
标题: 回复:回复:want to listen to advices from you guys
Oshawa ? are you kidding ?

1) there are a lot auto-workers will be laid-off in next two years as the auto-sector is in recession. Think about it !!

2) Do you know the nuclear power stations in between ? look at this map, you will know why the properties are so cheap in between Ajax and Oshawa..


Thank you Dell.

We knew the nuclear stations stuff, except the Darlington, actually there is also one in Pickering.
We just don't have any other choices, we both work in North Oshawa, we have colleagues who live in as far as North York, they are so tired of driving.
The properties in Markham or Scarborough are even more expensive and riskier for us.
It is not a good day for both buyers and sellers.
作者: 加拿大庸医    时间: 2008-10-17 17:32
标题: 多伦多房价太高,现在加速下降
多伦多房价太高,现在加速下降.
上次提到的51万-->46万--42万,还在打电话找我,
现在买房子要小心.至少要等到明年再说.
作者: 润土II代    时间: 2008-10-17 18:54
标题: 回复:回复:[评论]加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定
, 所以中文报纸网站必须"乐观".


夜郎自大
作者: 润土II代    时间: 2008-10-17 19:01
标题: 不是像美国那样的崩盘和“跳水”
"道明银行(TD Bank)副首席经济师亚历山大(Craig Alexander)也持相同观点。他表示,多年来房价的不断攀升,已超过一般市民的负担范围。因此,从供求关系来说,房价下跌是不可避免的。不过,这个下跌是市场正常的调节,不是像美国那样的崩盘和“跳水”。 "

有道理!


Who knows?
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 19:37
标题: 回复:多伦多房价太高,现在加速下降
多伦多房价太高,现在加速下降.
上次提到的51万-->46万--42万,还在打电话找我,
现在买房子要小心.至少要等到明年再说.


为什么找你?难道你要买?

这就是卖家“心存幻想”的原因!!!因为你要等到明年再买;卖家就等到明年再卖。殊不知,当初的美国人也是这样想的。正所谓人心不死,跌价不止。

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作者: steelecase    时间: 2008-10-17 19:46
标题: 真有意思:一边说房价跌了,一边又说房市稳定,疯叶肉吃多了吧?

作者: steelecase    时间: 2008-10-17 19:50
标题: 是没问题,只是房子卖不掉了
TORONTO没问题没问题没问题!!!!!一定没问题的!!!!!!! :crying:
作者: Dell-P3    时间: 2008-10-17 20:26
标题: 回复:回复:回复:want to listen to advices from you guys
Thank you Dell.

We knew the nuclear stations stuff, except the Darlington, actually there is also one in Pickering.
We just don't have any other choices, we both work in North Oshawa, we have colleagues who live in as far as North York, they are so tired of driving.
The properties in Markham or Scarborough are even more expensive and riskier for us.
It is not a good day for both buyers and sellers.


1) New investment of new nuclear plant is in Darlington.

2) properties is un-Liquidity asset. You must consider that it's hard to sell unless you reduce price much much low.

3) The opportunity is in buyer's hands at this time, but they just don't want to buy because it's the beginning of the recession
作者: Shrek_Chen    时间: 2008-10-17 21:00
标题: GTA十月份上半个月房地产的最新报告
看看GTA十月份上半个月房地产的最新报告吧。
http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/consumer_info/market_news/news2008/pdf/nr_101708.pdf
与去年同期相比,销售量降18%,价格跌11% 。多伦多价格更跌了15%,销售量降21%。

Changing GTA Resale Housing Market Reflects Economic Times
TORONTO, October 17, 2008 - Activity in the Greater Toronto Area resale housing market
moderated considerably during the first half of October with 2,700 homes changing hands,
Toronto Real Estate Board President Maureen O’Neill announced today.
Sales volumes in the GTA decreased 18 per cent compared to the first half of October 2007,
when 3,297 transactions were recorded and are down 10 per cent compared to the same period
in 2006 when 3,007 sales took place.
In the City of Toronto 1,140 sales took place in the first half of this month. This represents a 21
per cent decline from the 1,446 sales that took place in the same period a year ago and a 13 per
cent decrease from the 1,312 transactions recorded in the first half of October 2006.
In the 905 Region there were 1,560 sales in the first two weeks of this month, a 16 per cent
decrease from the 1,851 transactions that took place during the same timeframe in 2007 and
down eight per cent from the 1,695 homes sold during the first half of October 2006.
House prices declined throughout the GTA during the first half of the month. The average price
of a GTA home is currently $353,772, down 11 per cent from $399,013 recorded the comparable
period in 2007.
In the City of Toronto the current average price $375,804, a 15 per cent decrease from the
$441,878 average recorded at mid-October 2007.
In the 905 Region the average price of a home is currently $337,671. This represents an eight
per cent decline from the $365,527 average recorded during the first half of October 2007.
With 27,559 properties currently listed on the TorontoMLS system, there is now 30 per cent
more available stock from which to choose as compared to a year ago when 21,182 homes were
listed.
“More choice can mean slightly longer wait times for sellers whose homes are now on average,
selling after 34 days on the market as compared to 29 days a year ago,” said Ms. O’Neill. “The
list to sales ratio is 97 per cent of the list price.”
Increased sales activity was noted in specific pockets located throughout the GTA.
Sales in Oshawa (E16) increased 15 per cent compared to the first half of October 2007, based
mainly on solid sales of detached homes.
In Brampton West (W24) sales in the first half of October increased 21 per cent compared to the
same period a year ago mainly due to strong attached row house sales.
Downtown East (C08) experienced a 16 per cent overall increase in activity compared to mid-
October 2007 primarily as a result of condominium apartment sales.
Newmarket saw a 17 per cent increase in sales compared to the first half of October 2007 as a
result of strong condominium apartment and semi-detached home sales.
Previous news releases have incorporated 2006 comparisons. This was necessary in order to
place the market statistics in a broader context. We will be referencing 2006 in its entirety at the
end of the month when it will be more relevant.
“While we continue to watch the economic picture globally, it is the local real estate climate that
will determine our market place,” said Ms. O’Neill. “After the 2007 record highs, 2008 is an
encouraging market for buyers.”
作者: 阿强    时间: 2008-10-17 21:21
标题: 回复:want to listen to advices from you guys
We live in Oshawa, durham region.
We find a 3-bedroom townhouse near UOIT/Durham college priced at 140K, but it is old.
Just wondering whether buy it or not.
We have done the calculations, it won't cost too much, about 650 per month for finance while extra 240 for condo fee. We now live in a one bedroom apt that already costs us 800 dollars per month.
Can anyone give us some suggestions? Thanks.


1 房子很旧, 说明如果你买下后如果你要住得舒服, 你要投入很多维修费, 如换房顶, 修地下室渗水等等你意想不到的东西。

2 什么是物有所值和天下没有免费午餐。主人只把它定在14万,说明它只值这个价钱。没有傻瓜会把钱白送给你的,除非他有病或他是你的父母。这是个大麻屋吗?这条街的治安?

3再算一次。650+240+水费+电费+垃圾费+地税+无法预计的维修费。还有在未来的3-5年甚至8年时间里,它的价格还会继续下跌25-30%,也就是说再跌3.5-4.2万元。你现在租房住,不用愁水管裂马桶坏屋顶漏,4万元够你租50个月且没有任何风险。50个月是4年又2个月。简单的把你的现金放在银行,一年给你2千元的利息回报。
作者: 阿强    时间: 2008-10-17 21:27
4 住在破屋里绝对没有住在租金是800元的APT里舒服。
作者: inncanada    时间: 2008-10-17 22:00
标题: 回复:回复:[评论]加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定
中国人缺乏正义感, 自己买了房就盼房价涨, 加拿大的房市多是华人抄起来的, 所以中文报纸网站必须"乐观".


哪国人买了房希望房价跌的?指一个给我看看?
作者: Shrek_Chen    时间: 2008-10-17 22:09
标题: 回复:回复:GTA十月份上半个月房地产的最新报告
回复:GTA十月份上半个月房地产的最新报告



这里说跌  -19。6%
Toronto Plunge Annualized = -19.6% (up to Sept, 08):


8.2%/(5/12)=19.6%
8.2%为过去5个月的跌幅,用5个月的跌幅计算全年,并不准确。
例如1个月跌幅为10%,那么一年跌幅为 10%/(1/12)=120%?

而GTA十月份上半个月房地产的最新报告阐述的是已经发生 的数据:
“与去年同期相比,销售量降18%,价格跌11% 。多伦多价格跌了15%,销售量降21%。”
应该更为客观。
作者: tame cat    时间: 2008-10-17 22:59
标题: 回复:回复:回复:[评论]加国9月份房价继续下跌 房市相对稳定
哪国人买了房希望房价跌的?指一个给我看看?


赔了钱又被人骂, 真不是滋味 :crying:
作者: hezhegaigua2    时间: 2008-11-11 11:35
标题: Dell-3P眼不知疲倦地放P,不知其靠何为生?其个人利益何在?

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Dell-3P眼无愧于地产领域的最大的忽悠了!

所以有理由怀疑Dell-3P眼的个人利益就在地产上,Dell-3P眼才是最大的地产投机者,其力图制造一个最大的买空卖空的陷阱,然后从中牟利。

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