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网友来稿:如何终止你不满意的代理合同

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发表于 2008-3-13 07:40:26 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

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(网友来稿)贵网站刊登的《难以忍受:不买房经纪就把我告上法庭》一文,引起了网友热烈讨论。这篇文章反映了我们在地产买卖中经常碰到的困惑问题。而它的实质是一个法律问题,即什么样的地产代理合同是具有法律效力 ... [ 查看全文 ]

§ 发表于 2008-3-13
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沙发
发表于 2008-3-13 08:26:37 | 只看该作者

If I was a buyer,

I won't pay any commission to my agents, the commission will be paid by the seller.  So, the buyer won't care what's the difference between 2 or 3 agents.  If the previous buyer's agent wants any commission, she/he must ask thew seller.
板凳
发表于 2008-3-13 08:39:57 | 只看该作者
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地板
发表于 2008-3-13 09:30:09 | 只看该作者
51网需要这样的好文章。
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发表于 2008-3-13 10:38:05 | 只看该作者

6#
发表于 2008-3-13 10:42:52 | 只看该作者
具体来讲,对与买家而言,如果你在代理合同的一般有效期内,通过经纪人A的介绍,去看过一套住房,但没有购买。而在代理合同一般有效期结束,进入合同延伸期后,通过私售,或者其它经纪人(如经纪人B)的代理而购买了该套住房。这时,该买家需补偿其原经纪人(即经纪人A)。其补偿额度的大小,视具体情况不同而不同,可能是全额买方经纪费(如最后通过私售成交),也可能是买方经纪费的一部分。

Something wrong here.

In the hold-over period(usually 60 to 90 days), if you bought or sold your property by yourself, you need to amend agency fees to the agent.

However, if in the holdover period, if you find Agent B to represent you, Agent A has no right to claim agent fee any more.

Although that doesn't apply to this case since it is still within the contact when that lady contaced the second agent but people should know that right after the contact, they have right to find another agent.
7#
发表于 2008-3-13 11:11:24 | 只看该作者

回复:NOT THE SAME property

最初由[KUIPORNG]发布
NOT THE SAME property

looks like the lady didn't buy the same property (didn't say that in the original document)... so there is no legal problem then....

if it is the same property... for sure she will have legal problem...

actually it doesn't matter. Once you signed Buyer agreement contact, you are obligated to deal with the same agent for that time period.

It only exists in Chinese agents that some of them don't need you to sign the agreement before you put your offer.
8#
发表于 2008-3-13 11:14:03 | 只看该作者

两种可能性都有

后文中讲得很清楚:

如果,她所看中的住房,原经纪人并未介绍给她看过,她并无补偿原经纪人的义务;如她所看中的住房,是原经纪人介绍过的,她需要支付给原经纪人的仅是前后经纪人佣金的差额。

两种可能性都有。如果对方经纪人曾经带她看过这套房子(尽管未购买),进入HOLDOVER PERIOD后成交,是会有法律问题的。如果没有看过,则无补偿义务。
9#
发表于 2008-3-13 11:17:25 | 只看该作者
请第二帖和第五帖的朋友和其他准备买房的朋友们仔细读一下 Buyer Representation Agreement - Authority for Purchase or Lease  和 Buyer Customer Srrvice Agreement 中有关commision 的条款, 理解其中的区别再签字,否则会吃亏的。

同时,从事房地产买卖的Sales Representative 有责任和义务向客人仔细说明两份合同的内容和区别, 特别是其中 Commision 和 Holdover Period 的含义。要用 RECO Code of Ethics 约束自己的行为。提供应有的服务, 收取合理的费用。
10#
发表于 2008-3-13 12:01:59 | 只看该作者
不签buyer representation agreement可以吗?
看好房子再签。因为不打交道你是不知道这个经济的好坏的。
如果你真地想买房,你是等不起合同到期的。
11#
发表于 2008-3-13 12:09:00 | 只看该作者
最初由[Sean51]发布
请第二帖和第五帖的朋友和其他准备买房的朋友们仔细读一下 Buyer Representation Agreement - Authority for Purchase or Lease  和 Buyer Customer Srrvice Agreement 中有关commision 的条款, 理解其中的区别再签字,否则会吃亏的。

同时,从事房地产买卖的Sales Representative 有责任和义务向客人仔细说明两份合同的内容和区别, 特别是其中 Commision 和 Holdover Period 的含义。要用 RECO Code of Ethics 约束自己的行为。提供应有的服务, 收取合理的费用。



http://www.torontorealestate.ca/ ... Form_300_0406-s.pdf

Seller only owes commission to the first agent if the following are true:

- the buyer was introduced to the property during the first listing agreement with Salesperson A.  If they weren't then Salesperson A does not get anything.

- the commission on the second listing agreement with Salesperson B is lower than what was noted in the agreement with the first listing salesperson.  If the commission is the same on both listing agreements and the buyer was NOT introduced to the property by salesperson A, then salesperson A does not get anything.  If the commission was lower on the second, AND the buyer was introduced to the property during the agreement with Salesperson A, then the seller owes Salesperson A the difference between the two commission rates.

- the sale was made during the holdover period.

yes, I am very familiar with OREA code of Ethics despite that I am not in practice now, thank you. You probably need to review again to be professional to the clients.
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发表于 2008-3-13 12:09:55 | 只看该作者
最初由[夜晚]发布
不签buyer representation agreement可以吗?
看好房子再签。因为不打交道你是不知道这个经济的好坏的。
如果你真地想买房,你是等不起合同到期的。

A lot of Chinese agents do this practice, they won't let you sign until you are ready to put an offer,

not listing through
13#
发表于 2008-3-13 15:30:05 | 只看该作者

what about dual agency

What if I am a buyer without agent?

What if when I directly contact the listing agent and then I sign the purchase agreement with the seller for property A. But the seller does not accept my offer.

Then I start looking for another property B by contacting its listing agent too (not the same person). Do I owe any obligations to the first agent when I start signing purchase and sale agreement with another seller/agent for the second property?

thanks
14#
发表于 2008-3-13 16:39:47 | 只看该作者
文不对题, 本文没有给出"如何终止不满意的代理合同"的答案, 题目应改为"不满意的代理合同在有效期内是无法终止的".
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发表于 2008-3-13 17:09:21 | 只看该作者
如果你对你的代理不满意,比如他或者她不能带你看房,不为你的利益着想,你可以向他的公司或者多论多地产局投诉,并且要求解除合同,假如经纪真的有违犯职业操守的地方,虽然你不一定能追后什么损失,至少能把合同解除.
另外,你和经纪签合同之前,经纪需要问你是否还在另一个合同期内,如果是,经纪是的话,经纪是不能和你再签的.
其实这个CASE可能没有说清楚全部过程,所以大家也不能完全知道到底是怎么回事.
权利和责任都是双方的,你不能签了合同就一走了之,经纪更不能签了合同后不全心全意为你服务.
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