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三大反对党签协议组政府 加拿大要变天

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(本网综述) 今天(周一)下午,联邦三大反对党自由党、新民党和魁人党达成相互谅解,正式签署了组织联合政府的协议,标志着反对党正在酝酿的联合政府已扫清最重要的一个障碍。 据悉,如果三大反对党的倒阁顺利,现 ... [ 查看全文 ]

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这是对民主的亵渎,对选举的嘲弄。
请问NDP,当时投给你们的票,难道是帮助你们去给狄安送礼增加筹码吗?显而易见的是所谓政纲都是扯淡,政治筹码和个人野心才是真是目的。

哈勃,勇敢的面对现实,促成重新大选,让选票告诉自由党和NDP的阴谋家,什么是加拿大人民的声音。

300亿?对纳税人和政府的预算,是不可承受之重。对破碎的经济,杯水车薪!为什么要我们掏腰包给那些上市公司、美国财团的烂摊子买单?
沙发
发表于 2008-12-1 23:25:30 | 只看该作者

这本来就是民主政治的游戏规则,看不出有什么问题。

政治是共存的艺术,别试图置对手于死地。撕破脸皮,大家都没有回旋的余地了。只有实力说话。
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板凳
发表于 2008-12-1 23:46:44 | 只看该作者
这个就是政治啦,反对党不见得比夏巴更有能耐,但是如果反对党不反对那也就不是反对党了。民主也好,独裁也好,总是普通百姓倒霉。
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:48:23 | 只看该作者

回复:哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

稍有一点自尊的人都会在选举落败, 民心大跌, 同僚们一致谴责的情况下, 立刻引咎辞职. 拿出点政治家的风度.

而这个恬不知耻的四眼结巴猴, 死皮赖脸地只为了能享受上个把月的总理瘾而上窜下跳, 不仅完全出乎哈勃的意料, 更让全体加拿大民众大开眼界, 欣赏到了加拿大历史上脸皮最厚的政客如何为了赖在台上,想方设法,争权夺利的丑恶嘴脸.


不必这么气急败坏吧你
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:50:28 | 只看该作者

回复:哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

, 更让全体加拿大民众大开眼界, 欣赏到了加拿大历史上脸皮最厚的政客如何为了赖在台上,想方设法,争权夺利的丑恶嘴脸.


一个加拿大的总理,前不能预见将要面临的巨大赤字,后不能预见对手的反应,如此总理,不要也罢
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:51:23 | 只看该作者

回复:哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

稍有一点自尊的人都会在选举落败, 民心大跌, 同僚们一致谴责的情况下, 立刻引咎辞职. 拿出点政治家的风度.

而这个恬不知耻的四眼结巴猴, 死皮赖脸地只为了能享受上个把月的总理瘾而上窜下跳, 不仅完全出乎哈勃的意料, 更让全体加拿大民众大开眼界, 欣赏到了加拿大历史上脸皮最厚的政客如何为了赖在台上,想方设法,争权夺利的丑恶嘴脸.


分析家指出,保守党现在指控在野党拟建立联合政府的做法不合法,保守党却恰恰忘记了4年前身为在野党的哈珀也有类似组成联合政府的动作。

4年前,在马田领导的自由党执政少数政府时代,哈珀于2004年9月写信给时任加拿大总督伍冰枝,要求他所领导的政党拟与林顿的新民主党、杜塞佩的魁北克政团组成联合政府,以代替马田的少数自由党政府。
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:53:59 | 只看该作者

回复:[评论]三大反对党签协议组政府 加拿大要变天

这是对民主的亵渎,对选举的嘲弄。
请问NDP,当时投给你们的票,难道是帮助你们去给狄安送礼增加筹码吗?显而易见的是所谓政纲都是扯淡,政治筹码和个人野心才是真是目的。

哈勃,勇敢的面对现实,促成重新大选,让选票告诉自由党和NDP的阴谋家,什么是加拿大人民的声音。

300亿?对纳税人和政府的预算,是不可承受之重。对破碎的经济,杯水车薪!为什么要我们掏腰包给那些上市公司、美国财团的烂摊子买单?


要是再次大选的话,请哈巴一定要解释清楚加拿大到底会不会面临巨大的赤字,别像上次大选那样藏着掖着的
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:55:16 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

一个加拿大的总理,前不能预见将要面临的巨大赤字,后不能预见对手的反应,如此总理,不要也罢


还在经济危机到来之前喊经济危机“已过”。
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发表于 2008-12-1 23:57:21 | 只看该作者

回复:[评论]三大反对党签协议组政府 加拿大要变天

这是对民主的亵渎,对选举的嘲弄。
请问NDP,当时投给你们的票,难道是帮助你们去给狄安送礼增加筹码吗?显而易见的是所谓政纲都是扯淡,政治筹码和个人野心才是真是目的。

哈勃,勇敢的面对现实,促成重新大选,让选票告诉自由党和NDP的阴谋家,什么是加拿大人民的声音。

300亿?对纳税人和政府的预算,是不可承受之重。对破碎的经济,杯水车薪!为什么要我们掏腰包给那些上市公司、美国财团的烂摊子买单?


你当时投的到底是NDP还是保守党 :confused:
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发表于 2008-12-2 01:00:09 | 只看该作者

回复:回复:回复:哈勃最大的失误是轻敌, 最料想不到的是那个英语结巴四眼猴的脸皮出奇的厚.

还在经济危机到来之前喊经济危机“已过”。


哈巴非常拧!下台吧,让别人拭试!,,,
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发表于 2008-12-2 01:00:47 | 只看该作者
加拿大反对党的政客把国家事务当成幼儿园小朋友的过家家,不合自己的意就推倒重来,根本无视选民的意愿和纳税人的钱。这样的人,不要说当执政党来领导国家,要你是老板,会不会放心雇用他们为你工作?
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发表于 2008-12-2 01:50:29 | 只看该作者
加拿大反对党的政客把国家事务当成幼儿园小朋友的过家家,不合自己的意就推倒重来,根本无视选民的意愿和纳税人的钱。这样的人,不要说当执政党来领导国家,要你是老板,会不会放心雇用他们为你工作?


你说的这个“过家家”,哈帕在2004年也玩过,没人愿意跟他玩罢了。

你是不是认为保守党是老板,其他人都是打工的?
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发表于 2008-12-2 02:00:58 | 只看该作者
四年三次大选,小哈可以再解散国会宣布大选.
每年一次大选,很酷,很热闹.


理论上讲还有大选的可能。

但如果总督接受了反对党的联合政府主张,再次大选的可能就不存在了。
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发表于 2008-12-2 02:07:35 | 只看该作者
面对深刻影响国家命运的政坛突变,选民必须发出自己的声音。

你是否赞成反对党组联合政府和狄安任总理?(投票)
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发表于 2008-12-2 02:19:44 | 只看该作者
For governor-general, a series of firsts

MICHAEL VALPY

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

December 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM EST

Stephen Harper and the opposition party leaders have pushed Michaëlle Jean onto a constitutional cliff-edge where no governor-general has stood before.

No governor-general previously has faced having to dismiss a prime minister.

No governor-general has had to decide whether to accept the entreaties of opposition parties and ask them to replace an elected government with their own coalition.

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion and NDP Leader Jack Layton made things marginally easier for Ms. Jean Monday by making public their letters saying Mr. Harper's Conservatives no longer had the confidence of the House of Commons and asking her to request a Liberal-NDP coalition to form a new government.

Otherwise, if the letters had been private, Ms. Jean would have faced the added constitutional dilemma of deciding when she could properly read them.

Historian Jacques Monet wrote that the governor-general holds the great constitutional fire extinguishers of Canadian democracy.

There are few rules or templates setting down the sovereign's or governor-general's powers in constitutional monarchies such as Canada. What conventions or traditional practices do exist have roots centuries deep in history and arcane language, but should the government be defeated, and should Ms. Jean accept a coalition agreement, Canada would see its first change of government without an election since 1926.

The fundamental rule is that the sovereign or her representative is required to accept the advice of her prime minister – do as told, in other words – unless the governor-general concludes the prime minister is violating the Constitution, or is no longer able to govern and make Parliament work.

The basis for such a conclusion, as historian H. Blair Neatby says, “is subjective.”

The convention is that if the governor-general rejects advice from a prime minister, the prime minister resigns. And if a government is defeated in the House of Commons on a confidence motion, either the prime minister asks the governor-general to dissolve Parliament – allowing an election to be held – or the prime minister resigns.

The latter occurred in 1926 when Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King, leading a minority Liberal government and wanting to avoid a vote he believed he would lose, went to the governor-general, Lord Byng, and asked for a dissolution of Parliament and an election. Lord Byng refused, because an election had been held only one year before. King resigned and Lord Byng called on the Conservative opposition leader, Arthur Meighen, to form a government. It lasted three months.

Both with that precedent and an election held only a few weeks ago, Mr. Harper would almost certainly come away empty-handed if he asked Ms. Jean for a dissolution, say experts.

But one option before Mr. Harper and his advisers is to ask Ms. Jean to prorogue, or adjourn, Parliament – a manoeuvre raising the question whether Mr. Harper would be employing a legitimate parliamentary procedure or engaging in a ruse to avoid facing a confidence motion put forward by the opposition parties which the Conservatives would lose.

Normally, prorogations are granted after a government has introduced a substantial package of legislation on which Parliament has acted and there's agreement that MPs should be given time to go to their ridings and meet with their constituents.

Constitutional scholars are of two minds as to how Ms. Jean should respond.

University of Toronto political scientist Peter Russell, author of a recent book on minority governments, said Ms. Jean would be correct to refuse prorogation when Parliament has met for only two weeks since an election and accomplished nothing. Trent University political historian Dr. Christopher Dummitt, a King specialist, agrees with him.

But historian Blair Neatby, author of the definitive King biography, and University of Saskatchewan political scientist David Smith, an expert on the Crown in Canada, both say Ms. Jean would be on hazardous constitutional ground if she refused a request to prorogue.

Prof. Neatby said Mr. Harper is under no requirement to meet the House of Commons immediately – “he can get away with it for a while.”

Prof. Smith pointed out that, with Finance Minister Jim Flaherty having promised a budget in January and the Christmas holiday intervening, the government was making clear it wasn't asking for a lengthy prorogation.

“So my view would be she would be in an exposed or vulnerable position to refuse the request of prorogation.”

As for the coalition letters from Mr. Dion and Mr. Layton, Prof. Smith said Ms. Jean can't seek advice from them at the same time she's receiving advice from Mr. Harper.

But he said: “She has to be very confident that if she refuses the Prime Minister's advice that another individual would be able to accept her invitation to carry on for some period. That was one of the lessons of the King-Meighen era, that a new government has to be able to continue.”

That is likely why the Dion-Layton letters said a Liberal-NDP coalition had an agreement to govern with the supporte of the Bloc Québecois until June 30, 2010.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/s ... wgg02/BNStory/Front
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