为什么大多数专业人士找不到专业工作？

zmxnc

Reason:
Most people don't have patient. IF you keep on....you will definitely find teh job in your field.

Good luck.

毛毛

最初由[NewFish]发布
学计算机的应该问问自己，汇编功底怎么样？操作系统你了解多少？C/C++是否能运用自如？编译器原理（尤其是C++编译器）你又知道多少？STL、ATL、COM这些技术你是否一直在追踪？

不是吧，STL、ATL、COM这些东西早就属于淘汰技术了，怎么追踪？

你的观点我同意，细节不敢苟同。

你平时写汇编吗？懂汇编也就对学C语言有点用。

搞IT的，这两年在加拿大找到工作的新移民，主要有两种：
1）懂一种行业软件或者中间件。
2）有非常接近的行业经验，尤其是金融行业。
3）懂一种非常冷门的技术。

健健康康

为了对付社会aging问题，加拿大需要移民是国策。从制定移民政策角度看，加拿大会怎么考虑呢？

1。每年需要多少移民合适？过去比较注重目前的labor Market的容量，现在则更看重社会的长期发展目标。因此即使在就业率不太好的年份，移民的数量好象变化不大。

2。需要什么素质的移民？他们至少不能给社会添乱吧，能够直接就业创造财富的移民更好！因此就必须有一把尺子。这把尺子卡在哪里？白领还是蓝领？

3。如果能够有对加拿大经济有较大贡献的移民则更好。因此就有“投资移民”。过去还有“专业移民”(这是本人杜撰的，意思是有一些技术专业的分数比较高)，后来发现移民政策不容易适应labor Market的变化，现在又不太强调技术专业了。

4。统计资料还显示，受过当地教育的外国出生的人比较容易受到当地雇主的信任，所以现在的技术移民政策也不强调工作经验了。

按理，制定一个国家的政策到这里就可以了，剩下的就看移民自己怎么努力去竞争了。不过移民的状况不好也给社会增加负担，所以政府还有不少辅助移民融入社会的各种项目。

结论是在上述这么一个大环境下，如果各行各业，特别是移民自己，能够鼓励政府有更多的资金投入到辅助移民融入社会的项目，更重要的是出谋划策，帮助政府用好这些资金，就越有可能产生移民和社会双赢的局面。

sd222

我不想写的太多.
不就是要找份程序员的工作吗?如果象楼上所问:你对xxx懂多少?你又对xxx懂多少?你用过unix多少年?都懂了,或许就不找程序员的工作了.
大哥还忘了:根据加拿大的移民法,大学毕业参加工作一年就有资格申请独立移民,我还能用UNIX几年?!!!
是的,我确实见过不少连"我想喝橙汁"(坐飞机时用语)都不会说的独立移民.请问,加拿大政府不是在拿自己的移民法开玩笑吗?为什么还给他们发签证?!!!
加拿大政府知道你们的英语再好,技术再高,大多数人还是找不到你从前的工作.所以吗,想来者不拒.
当然了,既然来了,你去怨加拿大政府也没用.自己努力点是真的.
所以吗,兄弟,要做到有备而来,还是先去弄懂加拿大移民法的"内核",而不是UNIX的内核啊!!!

NewFish

想想北美洲本也是块荒地，老外们的前辈开拓也不容易啊。

时局如此艰难，我们即不能自暴自弃，也不能怨天尤人。脚踏实地，努力拼搏，拿出中国人的骨气和志气！我们必须战胜困难，我们也一定能战胜困难！

人活着，是要有点精神的。

健健康康

更正：


4。统计资料还显示，受过当地教育的外国出生的人比较容易受到当地雇主的信任，所以现在的技术移民政策也不强调工作经验了。


4。统计资料还显示，受过当地教育的外国出生的人的资历比较容易取得当地雇主的信任，所以现在的技术移民政策也不强调工作经验了。

自由斑马

大家不要抱怨了，来加拿大是你们自己的选择，来了以后情况不好就怪这怪那是很可笑的，找不着专业工作，有能力问题，有语言问题，也有机遇问题，但基本上，这里还是一个很公平的环境．所以，找不着工作的，多从自己身上找找原因吧．

DooDoo

创业从这里开是.

点这里

小小mm

Could you guys discuss something?

Why do you live in the world? for
money?social status or power? happiness?
If you are looking for social status, why not go back to China?

If you are trying  to make money, how much do you need?
If you are greedy, you'll never be satisfied with your salary even if you find white collar job.
If you are happy guy , you are always think ing you are making more in Canada than you made in China even if you are doing blue collar job.

Here is Canada. Most Canadian are happy with their job and enjoy their life no matter blue collar or white collar job they have.

Even if you have white collar job, who is going to flatter you?
Even if you have blue collar job ,who is going to look down to you?
Nobody.

But why do you complain too much?
It was your decision when you chose to immigrate here.
Nothing is perfect because nobody is perfect including you.

Just keep working hard and eventually you will achieve your goal no matter what you are doing.
Everything takes time. You can't be a millionnaire in one night.
Be patient, guy.
Good luck.

小小mm

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I am writing to whoever are complaining their job or situation.

if you were Canadian government ,you would do same thing.
You had white collar job in China. but how much did you make?
You are having blue collar job in Canada now. How much do you make?
You left China and don't want to go back to China because you know you are making more money now.
It is good for you.
And also it is good for Canada.
professional can both labour's job and professional job.
but labour can't do professional's job.
If you were working for Canadian government you would choose professional to immigrate Canada.
When Canadian economy is good, professional do professiaonl job. When it is slow, professional still can do labour's job.
Who said you must do professional job in all your life.
It depends on business.
And also you were a professional or white collar from developing country. Canada is a developed country.
Of course you need to be improved.
For example, does Chinese company easily hire people from a poor country which is behind China?
It is not only becuase of language but also technology,science management experience,mature law etc.
Every time When you complain, you should double check yourself first.
Don't expect too much from others.
The people who should complain are local Canadian.
Think about it.
It is hard for them to find job too even if blue collar job.
They have excellent English but they can't find even labour's job.
Why?
Because too many people here are looking for job.
We are in their land to look for job. We are not Canadian yet.
If we complain, what should they do?
You always think you are smart or intellengent in your career . Why not invent new technology or set up a new business and create more opportunity for others?
You always think how good USA is. Why not immigrate to USA?
Since you immigrate in Canada, you should love Canada and do something for Canada instead of complaining all day and every where.
Remember your promise before you immigrate here?
Always check what you did? Don't always use the flashlight to check what the others did.
The world would be better if everybody supervised himself/her self.
The fact is everybody is trying to supervise others like flashlight.
What is more, some people are trying to supervise government.
No wonder you are not successful. Your attitude is negative.
You spent too much time finding people's fault. If you can't find a good job. You are complaining this deparment's fault or that policy's fault or every leader's fault.
Only the people you forget is yourself.
Are you flashlight?  If not, stop complaining.
Try to work hard and start from beginning to rebuild yourself.
Sometime Canadian are lazy. They are not rich. But they are nice.
Try to learn something good from them.
Forget about fighting or complaining.
The world would be better if everybody is satisfied with whatever they have already got and keep working hard for the future.
Immigrant should enjoy their life like Canadian do. Otherwise they'd better go back to their country.
Don't bring too much trouble here.

mikezhang

不管怎么说，加拿大的好工作机会很少，特别是给移民的。也许
别的地方也是这样。good luck everybody!

健健康康

让我们还是回到主题

这个主题好象是在说，从社会的角度看，加拿大对专业工作岗位的需求与最近大批到来的技术移民后的供给有不平衡的关系。

这个问题可以分解为两个子问题：
是整个社会不平衡，还是技术移民更不平衡？

从统计资料看，问题好象是在后者。

由此对技术移民这个群体的产生的结果就不用多说了。

对加拿大而言，这个损失也是很大的。具体表现在
1。那么多的human capital，即技术移民经过长期专业训练具有的技能，没有得到社会利用，由此造成的损失。

2。由此产生的对加拿大的声誉的损坏。加拿大是以多元社会为自豪的。如果统计资料表明，同等资历条件下，当地出生的人与外国出生的人在就业、工资等方面有较大的差距，这问题就要引起重视，并想办法解决了。

有些被称为“系统障碍”的问题不是单靠个人的努力能够解决的。
这类问题大的有专业资格认定。更普遍一点的问题是没有机会进入专业领域，典型的例子是当地工作经验和当地工作悖论。

实际上，加拿大社会，政府也是认识到这个问题，也是希望加以解决的。加拿大每年还是有不少资金投在辅助移民的项目上，但好象成效不大。仔细想想真要着手做也真是不容易，不妨你自己设身处地想想？

名不见经传

This is a very good point that  reflects the whole employment  environment in Canada. I agree with you.  I don't  think that  will give anything negative to our Chinese Immigrants.  Because it tells the fact,  at least it gives us some usful ideas. Don't just focus on working at the office as "white collars",  because you will feel disppointed finally. Just  review  your minds , give some chance to you self,  find out  your own protentials,  and also you can keep in your field if you like.  Don't  think only  "white collars" are succeful,  just do what you should do. That  is what I am doing now.

lecy

我找到了两个专业工作,前一个干了两年.没有什么大惊小怪.如果没有,我可能并可以在什么地方无家可归呢.也许正是我想要的. 富贵有何宝贵.来之前就没有打算能找到什么象样的工作,能养家糊口就够了.怎么过不都是一辈子.我的确很优秀,但是和那些托福GRE高分得主相比,就属于低能了.但他们都不见了. 我不赞成优秀的人出国目标只是上等工作. 其实要求不要太高,知足长乐.明天炒鱿鱼,我小子立刻乐呵呵.加拿大如诗歌,有起伏也有跌宕,最终还是天堂乐土.

loong 的传人

我觉得原作者的意思无非是为自己以及自己周围一大批找不到专业工作的人找一个理论依据，现在经过作者考证，终于得出了结论：你们这些人努力不努力结局是一样的，不是有人第一次买彩票就中大奖了吗？那我们索性都到树下去等那送上门的兔子吧。实际上我觉得还是要承认那些幸运儿处了运气的成分外更多的还是依靠实力，应该更多地去学习别人的长处，弥补自己的 弱点，同时把心态调整好，用积极、乐观、向上的态度面对人生，这就够了，没有必要给自己定不切合实际的目标也没有必要找完不成目标的借口。