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在上帝面前,达赖是有罪的吗?

 
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发表于 2013-10-17 04:38:25 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Tibetan Orphans Taken from Parents



In 1963, seven-year-old Tibi Lhundub Tsering was picked up by his foster parents at Zurich Airport, Switzerland. His mother Youden Jampa, working in a road-building camp in India, knew nothing of her son's whereabouts.

This is the beginning of the inconvenient and uncomfortable truth presented in Swiss documentary "Tibi and his mothers" directed by Ueli Meier.

According to the documentary, Tibi was one of the 200 so-called "Tibetan orphans" who were brought to Switzerland in the 1960s from the Nursery for Tibetan Refugee Children in Dharamsala headed by Tsering Dolma, the elder sister of the Dalai Lama. They were moved through a program privately run by Swiss entrepreneur Charles Aeschimann and approved by the Dalai Lama.

Contrary to the expectations of the foster parents in Switzerland, only 19 of these children were orphans, while the vast majority had at least one parent in Tibet, often both, said Meier in the bonus feature of the DVD edition, citing a report by Aeschimann.

In a confidential letter in February 1963, the Swiss Ambassador to India at the time said he discovered many of these "orphans" selected in Dharamsala actually had at least one parent. He warned against the "human and spiritual difficulties" faced by children who became "contractually assigned care items" thanks to the agreement between Aeschimann and the Dalai Lama.

Meier said during his research on the documentary, many documents showed that Aeschimann and the Dalai Lama had divergent interests in their arrangement. While Aeschimann wanted a child refuge, the Dalai Lama appeared to intend to turn the children into an elite for the "Tibetan government-in-exile".

According to letters between the two, the Dalai Lama never mentioned the psychological well-being of the children after being separated from their parents and only had limited discussion with Aeschimann about them, the director said in an interview with Swiss German-language daily Neue Zuricher Zeitung, which ran a series of reports in September questioning the "Tibetan orphans" program.

As for Tibi, protagonist of the documentary, the tender care and devotion of his foster parents cannot replace the love of his birth mother. He went off the rails and almost lost himself after he visited his birth parents for the first time years later and realised his mother will never be able to understand him.

The film accompanied Tibi on his journey to visit his birth mother in India and his foster mother in Gruningen, Switzerland. "While observing the now quiet everyday life of the two old women, distant memories emerge silently and sometimes painfully to the surface," says the introduction of the film.

The director said he learned many tragic stories of the former foster children during his research.

A study published in 1982 by the University of Zurich found that among the Tibetans who grew up in Switzerland, suicides were only reported in the group of "Aeschimann Children," Meier pointed out in the interview with the Swiss newspaper.

Meier said he sent an interview request to the Dalai Lama's bureau in Geneva, but was met with silence.

On Tuesday, the Chinese government condemned the Dalai Lama and his clique for abusing children's rights by orchestrating the 1960s campaign to send Tibetan "orphans" to Switzerland.

At a regular news briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said, "The Dalai Lama's deeds have trampled on the children's individual rights and publicly violated common ethics and morality. All humane, justice-loving people should condemn such acts."

诺贝尔和平奖得主虚伪的佛教徒人间的恶魔不去宣扬佛法却参与政治隐藏很深的反人类罪
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发表于 2013-10-17 08:30:04 | 只看该作者
回复 1# hls812


    good question.
地球上有66亿人口,这样,这个问题可以问66亿次。
谁有时间回答66亿次? nobody。
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板凳
发表于 2013-10-17 15:44:12 | 只看该作者
这个问题好.
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地板
发表于 2013-10-17 16:16:20 | 只看该作者
回复 1# hls812


    在上帝面前,达赖是有罪的吗?  

   您说他有没有罪?why ?
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发表于 2013-10-17 16:17:04 | 只看该作者
这个问题好.
xuxi 发表于 2013-10-17 16:44 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif


好在哪?
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发表于 2013-10-17 16:47:29 | 只看该作者
回复 5# 纸纱窗
这个问题好在:
基督徒只有一个答案,但不需要回答。
世人的回答各不一样,然后就是争执。

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7#
发表于 2013-10-17 18:31:57 | 只看该作者
好在哪?
纸纱窗 发表于 2013-10-17 17:17 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif[/sizinee]

好在,不知道达赖在上帝面前是否有罪。另外再问你一句题外话,你在上帝面前是有罪的,能否方便告知是什么罪呢?
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发表于 2013-10-17 20:15:03 | 只看该作者
讓我代她告訴你吧, 她有罪, 其实很冤枉, 是她的祖宗犯了罪, 讓她承受罪惡遺產.

她的歷代祖宗, 那一個犯了那麼大的罪?

她的歷代祖宗沒有犯罪, 是教會的牧師硬塞給她兩個祖宗, 男的叫亞當, 女的叫夏娃, 說亞當和夏娃犯了罪.

其实亞當和夏娃也沒有犯罪, 是教會指為愛世人的耶和華設局陷害, 就算是犯罪, 也是小意思吧了.

耶和華先後造出亞當和夏娃, 並賜給他們一座伊甸園, 園中一切果子都可以吃, 獨是辨善惡果子不可吃, 他不想亞當和夏娃具有辨別是非的智慧.

撒但看不过眼, 鼓勵夏娃吃, 夏娃又鼓勵亞當吃. 耶和華知道了, 怒不可遏, 但法力有限, 奈不得撒但何, 只好欺善怕惡, 拿亞當和夏娃出氣, 不止把他們逐出樂園, 还要他們的子孫世代担負原罪.

所以, 你不認亞當夏娃做祖宗, 你就無罪. 紙紗窗認了亞當夏娃作祖宗, 就得承受原罪.
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发表于 2013-10-17 20:43:06 | 只看该作者
应该是没有罪的。
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发表于 2013-10-17 21:08:48 | 只看该作者
就问信徒,把亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情、当历史看还是当神话看。。我见过信徒真是拿吃苹果这个事情当真事看的。我不认为这个事情是真实的难道我就不能信主么?
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发表于 2013-10-17 21:42:28 | 只看该作者
就问信徒,把亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情、当历史看还是当神话看。。我见过信徒真是拿吃苹果这个事情当真事看的。我不认为这个事情是真实的难道我就不能信主么?
稀泥派 老刘 发表于 2013-10-17 22:08



圣经从亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情,引出了人类原罪(Sin)的概念(所谓原罪就是人的嫉妒心,仇恨心,报复心,骄傲自大,说谎, 心怀邪念等,这不是法律上的犯罪的概念)。亚当和夏娃所犯的大忌就是没把上帝的话当回事,在上帝面前说谎。信主的前提就是要承认自己有原罪。我认为你如果不把亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情当真事看,只要你承认自己曾经有过原罪,愿意耶稣来洁净你,就算信主了。
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发表于 2013-10-17 21:45:40 | 只看该作者
达赖喇嘛也是人,是人就有原罪。况且达赖不知扯过多少慌!
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发表于 2013-10-17 21:46:45 | 只看该作者
:yes:
圣经从亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情,引出了人类原罪(Sin)的概念(所谓原罪就是人的嫉妒心,仇恨心,报复心,骄傲自大,说谎, 心怀邪念等,这不是法律上的犯罪的概念)。亚当和夏娃所犯的大忌就是没把上帝的话当回事,在上帝面前说谎。信主的前提就是要承认自己有原罪。我认为你如果不把亚当和夏娃的吃苹果这个事情当真事看,只要你承认自己曾经有过原罪,愿意耶稣来洁净你,就算信主了。
TorontoRCMP2 发表于 2013-10-17 22:42
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发表于 2013-10-17 22:41:50 | 只看该作者
回复 13# 稀泥派 老刘


   据记载,亚当和夏娃当时吃的是水蜜桃,怎么到你那里就变苹果了?
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发表于 2013-10-18 09:33:44 | 只看该作者
荒谬愚蠢的问题!达赖也可以问:在佛的面前,上帝有罪吗?
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