东方华“各国承认双重国籍状况的最新分析统计“的严重错误

Sanssouci

hls812现象，也就是自编美国国籍法来说明中国国籍法的正确性，并非绝无仅有，早些年是很流行的。
某些别有用心的人，利用大众不爱寻根问底的习惯，在网上肆意发布一些谣言和假话，以引导舆论。

记得几年前，如果有人在网上提双重国籍，马上就会有人跳出来，说，美国就不承认双重国籍，一句假话把人顶回去。这样的人过去有，现在有（像hls812），今后还会有。

所以把事实真相呈现给大家，做到家喻户晓，就是大家要做的事。

东方华

hls821网友，你知道什么叫Bullshit吗？你搞了那么一堆没用的Bullshit（牛屎），一个老掉牙的美国国籍法（差不多60年代）来混淆视听，妄图搞舆论导向，是注定要失败的。好吧，咱先给看看一家加拿大律师的网站怎么说的（英文的哦，别说你只看中文）：

Many Americans are able to qualify for a Canada Immigration (Permanent Resident) Visa under the economic stream of immigration– either the Skilled Worker Category or the Business Category of Canadian immigration.

A Canadian Permanent Resident may become a Canadian Citizen and receive a Canadian Passport after three years. Canadian citizenship is voluntary and you would not have to relinquish your U.S. citizenship, if you do not wish to. Both Canada and the United States permit dual citizenship.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-usa-citizens.html

噢，对了，你是的美国国籍法是中文的（估计是国民党反动派写的，我党决不会参与撰写美国国籍法），公平起见，咱就给你翻译一下：

在经济移民潮中，许多美国人有资格取得加拿大移民签证（PR）-不管是加国移民技工类还是商业类。

作为加拿大永久居民三年后，是可以成为加拿大公民的并取得加拿大护照。加拿大公民身份是自愿取得的，假如你不愿意的话，不需要放弃你的美国公民身份。加拿大和美国都允许双重国籍。

要不，你去打假？
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-5 21:22

谢谢你提供的十分有用的信息。

几年前，因为工作和生活的方便，需要加入加拿大国籍。但当时的顾虑就是入籍加拿大后，是否会影响美国国籍。就此跑了美、加有关的政府部门：

1. 加拿大方面的答复最直接：加拿大承认双重国籍。
2. 美国方面的答复很间接：美国不在乎你有多少国籍，只在乎你的美国国籍。

由此看来，中共为什么要搞过滤境外信息，控制新闻，目的只有一个 - 愚民。也就是，要你说它想要你说的话，要你干它想要你干的事。

东方华

hls812现象，也就是自编美国国籍法来说明中国国籍法的正确性，并非绝无仅有，早些年是很流行的。
某些别有用心的人，利用大众不爱寻根问底的习惯，在网上肆意发布一些谣言和假话，以引导舆论。

记得几年前，如果有人在网上提双重国籍，马上就会有人跳出来，说，美国就不承认双重国籍，一句假话把人顶回去。这样的人过去有，现在有（像hls812），今后还会有。

所以把事实真相呈现给大家，做到家喻户晓，就是大家要做的事。
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-5 22:51

言之有理。

东方华

hls812网友，你用大红字粗体撒了一个天大的谎言！

咱把你自编的美国国籍法第三条，翻成英文，在网上无法找到类似的内容。
然后，咱不得不翻看美国国籍法，NND，才发现hls812网友胆子够肥的，居然把几大章的美国国籍法，不仅简写成三条，还篡改其中的核心内容，糊弄国内大众，为期舆论导向服务。美国总统都不敢怎么干吧？

好，咱来看看，到底怎么回事：
Written by Henry J. Chang

Loss of nationality, also known as expatriation, means the loss of citizenship status properly acquired, whether by birth in the United States, through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or by naturalization. As a result of several constitutional decisions, §349[a] of the current Immigration and Nationality Act ("INA") provides that U.S. nationality is lost only when the U.S. citizen does one of the specified acts described in INA §349, voluntarily and with the intent to give up that nationality. If any one of these requirements is lacking, nationality is not lost.

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丧失国籍，也称失去原国籍，指的是无论在美国出生，或是美国公民在国外出生的子女，或通过入籍成为美国公民，在通过正常途径失去公民身份。 作为几个宪法修正案的结果，现行的移民及国籍法（INA）第§349[a]条规定，美国公民只有在 INA §349中描述的行动中，非强迫的，有意放弃公民身份的情况下，才会丧失美国国籍。假如缺乏这些要求中的任何一条，都不会失去国籍。

看清楚！不管是本土美国公民，跟随父母的美国公民还是归化美国公民，无人可以强迫他放弃美国国籍。

咱可以称hls812是骗子吗？hls812网友如果有异议，咱给你机会申诉。
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-5 22:32

不知道hls812是什么目的如此大放厥词的行骗？  现在被你反驳得体无完肤了。

东方华

东方华，你将你的一篇耸人听闻，错误漏洞百出的文章贴来贴去，你烦不烦啊？你这样的刁民，中国还嫌少啊？？？？
hls812 发表于 2012-7-2 18:32

你这帖子是对你人格和水平的写照。

你对你错误漏洞百出的贴子回答了没有？ 你为何侮辱谩骂正常讨论的网友为“刁民”？

Sanssouci

你这帖子是对你人格和水平的写照。

你对你错误漏洞百出的贴子回答了没有？ 你为何侮辱谩骂正常讨论的网友为“刁民”？
东方华 发表于 2012-7-6 12:32

他在国内骂惯了别人“刁民”。你说他还会是什么东西？

Sanssouci

继续揭露hls812伪造的美国“双籍”“单籍”说。

有兴趣的可以直接到美国政府网站参看美国移民及国籍法 第349条 INA：ACT349

http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10428.html

INA: ACT 349 - LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

Sec. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481]

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if

(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or

(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4) (A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or

(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, United States Code, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, United States Code, or violating section 2384 of said title by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if an d when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

(b) 1/ Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after the enactment of this subsection under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence. Any person who commits or performs, or who has committed or performed, any act of expatriation under the provisions of this or any other Act shall be presumed to have done so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted upon a showing, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the act or acts committed or performed were not done voluntarily.

东方华

继续揭露hls812伪造的美国“双籍”“单籍”说。

有兴趣的可以直接到美国政府网站参看美国移民及国籍法 第349条 INA：ACT349

http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10428.html

INA: ACT 349 - LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

Sec. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481]

A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if

(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or

(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4) (A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or

(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, United States Code, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, United States Code, or violating section 2384 of said title by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if an d when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

1/ Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after the enactment of this subsection under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence. Any person who commits or performs, or who has committed or performed, any act of expatriation under the provisions of this or any other Act shall be presumed to have done so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted upon a showing, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the act or acts committed or performed were not done voluntarily.
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-7 00:27

谢谢你强有力地打假、辟谣。

清风寨

世界上有200多个国家，承认双重国籍的只有70多个。你为了凑数，第一，发明了间接默认一词，第二，将不承认双重国籍的许多国家也混水摸鱼偷偷列入其中，使你的承认双重国籍的国家和地区的总数达到近300个。你的做法是极为荒谬和错误的

Sanssouci

世界上有200多个国家，承认双重国籍的只有70多个。你为了凑数，第一，发明了间接默认一词，第二，将不承认双重国籍的许多国家也混水摸鱼偷偷列入其中，使你的承认双重国籍的国家和地区的总数达到近300个。你的做法是极为荒谬和错误的
hls812 发表于 2012-7-8 16:24

你完全可以一一列举啊。咱只看到你第一列举的美国。结果是用中文伪造一个美国国籍法，来证明美国不承认双重国籍，而美国就是一个名副其实的默认双重国籍的国家，在这个国家有成千上万的人拥有两本以上的护照，你说是谁荒谬，是谁有错？

只是为了替中国的国籍法背书，也不能不择手段，罔顾事实啊！

清风寨

你完全可以一一列举啊。咱只看到你第一列举的美国。结果是用中文伪造一个美国国籍法，来证明美国不承认双重国籍，而美国就是一个名副其实的默认双重国籍的国家，在这个国家有成千上万的人拥有两本以上的护照，你说是谁荒谬，是谁有错？

只是为了替中国的国籍法背书，也不能不择手段，罔顾事实啊！
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-8 17:18

睁大你的狗眼仔细去看， 你不是傻逼就是个无赖

世界上有200多个国家，承认双重国籍的只有70多个。你为了凑数，第一，发明了间接默认一词，第二，将不承认双重国籍的许多国家也混水摸鱼偷偷列入其中，使你的承认双重国籍的国家和地区的总数达到近300个。你的做法是极为荒谬和错误的

Sanssouci

睁大你的狗眼仔细去看， 你不是傻逼就是个无赖

世界上有200多个国家，承认双重国籍的只有70多个。你为了凑数，第一，发明了间接默认一词，第二，将不承认双重国籍的许多国家也混水摸鱼偷偷列入其中，使你的承认双重国籍的国家和地区的总数达到近300个。你的做法是极为荒谬和错误的
hls812 发表于 2012-7-8 17:28

你以为一句白痴的话，反复叫嚷就能成为真理吗？

清风寨

你完全可以一一列举啊。
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-8 17:18

你以为一句白痴的话，反复叫嚷就能成为真理吗？
Sanssouci 发表于 2012-7-8 17:32

明确承认或者间接默认双重国籍的国家和地区：

（一）亚洲国家和地区：

中国香港（中华人民共和国）、中国澳门（中华人民共和国）、中国台湾（中华民国）、韩国、菲律宾、越南、印度尼西亚、柬埔寨、孟加拉国、印度，斯里兰卡、巴基斯坦、叙利亚、约旦、巴勒斯坦、黎巴嫩、以色列、格鲁吉亚、亚美尼亚、伊朗、伊拉克、阿富汗、爱沙尼亚、阿塞拜疆、土库曼斯坦、塔吉克斯坦、卡塔尔、泰国、马尔代夫、东帝汶、哈萨克斯坦、吉尔吉斯斯坦、也门、日本、新加坡，乌兹别克共35个


东方华 发表于 2012-7-2 12:12

仅就东方华列表作不完全搜索，亚洲国家的印度，印尼，马来西亚，菲律宾，新加坡，泰国，越南，韩国、中国，日本 都不承认双重国籍。

清风寨

中国不承认双重国籍，可以有效禁止非中国公民购买中国房地产，有利于稳定中国的房地产市场

Sanssouci

中国不承认双重国籍，可以有效禁止非中国公民购买中国房地产，有利于稳定中国的房地产市场
hls812 发表于 2012-7-8 18:10

奇谈怪论，外资在上海北京买房地产的不知有多少。个人拿本外国护照，只要在中国住上一年，或工作一年，就可以买房。相反，如果拿绿卡和中国护照的，因为要在国外住满180天，反而满足不了在国内住满一年的要求。

有双重国籍并不意味着一定可以在中国买房，各省市现在都根据实际情况，出台了自己的保护政策，在中国居住就是其中一条。有什么好担心的呢？

这种拿不上台面的理由，来说明80年制定的国籍法，是站不住脚的。80年如果有外资的话，不管投在哪里，包括房地产，都大受欢迎，那时候中国就是缺钱，为了钱，才听李光耀那个反动派的忽悠，草草拟了一个国籍法。