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我们关心的是老唐这样使华社蒙羞的家伙能不能受到应得惩罚

 
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发表于 2010-11-15 20:34:23 | 只看该作者
向你学习
还学得不够
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发表于 2010-11-15 20:40:25 | 只看该作者
300楼的,谢谢你做裁判。
我在网上和大家讨论只是为了让大家从另一个角度了解唐案。我的工作就是将我认为是对的告诉大家,仅此而已。谁赢谁输,我是不在乎的。
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300楼的,谢谢你做裁判。
我在网上和大家讨论只是为了让大家从另一个角度了解唐案。我的工作就是将我认为是对的告诉大家,仅此而已。谁赢谁输,我是不在乎的。
torontohankou 发表于 2010-11-15 20:40 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

工作?
pay得如何?
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哪有钱?是我自己给自己的义工。
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发表于 2010-11-15 20:51:34 | 只看该作者
主要是我觉得华人在加拿大生活实在不容易。华人社区里出一个唐炜臻,他为华人做了那么多事,华人应该珍惜才是。
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发表于 2010-11-15 21:41:27 | 只看该作者
美国SEC对唐及其相关的指控。。。这是公开的文件
Case 3:09-cv-00614-B
u.s. DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
原件很容易查到。。。

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
vs.
OVERSEA CHINESE FUND LIMITED
PARTNERSHIP, WEIZHEN TANG &
ASSOCIATES, INC., WEIZHEN TANG CORP.,
WINWIN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC,
WINWIN CAPITAL LIMITED PARTNERSHIP,
J.O.R. & ASSOCIATES, LLC, AND
WEIZHEN TANG,
Defendants,
and
WINWIN CAPITAL PARTNERS, LP,
BLUEJAY INVESTMENT LLC d/b/a VINTAGE
INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT LLC,
Relief Defendants.


COMPLAINT
8-09CV0614- B
The Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission"), Plaintiff, files this Complaint
against Defendants Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership, Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc., Weizhen Tang Corp., WinWin Capital Management, LLC, WinWin Capital Limited
Partnership, J.O.R. & Associates, LLC, and Weizhen Tang, and Relief Defendants WinWin Capital Partners, LP, and Bluejay Investment, LLC, d/b/a Vintage International Investment, LLC, and would respectfully show the Court as follows:
?
SUMMARY
?
1. This emergency matter involves an on-going Ponzi scheme and affinity fraud
targeting members of the Chinese-American community. Weizhen Tang, the self-described
"Chinese Warren Buffet" recently admitted to investors that since at least 2006 his Torontobased hedge fund, Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership (the "Hedge Fund"), operated as a Ponzi scheme. In February 2009, Tang told investors that he and the Hedge Fund posted false profits on investors' account statements for the purpose of concealing substantial trading losses, and, more insidiously, to attract new investors to his fund. Tang further admitted that he used funds from new investors to return principal and payout purported profits to other investors.
Tang admitted to investors that the Hedge Fund paid out at least $8 million in purported profits in 2006, 2007, and 2008 - despite significant trading losses incurred during that time. Since at least as early as 2004, more than 200 investors have collectively invested between $50 and $75 million in the Hedge Fund.

2. Tang specifically targeted members of the Chinese-American community and
solicited U.S. investors to directly and indirectly invest in the Hedge Fund. Several U.S.
investors directly invested in the Hedge Fund. Since at least November 2007, Tang raised capital
for the Hedge Fund from U.S. investors by offering and selling limited partnership interests in
WinWin Capital Limited Partnership ("WinWin Partners"), a Texas-based limited partnership he
controls. WinWin Partners' sole business is investing partnership capital in the Hedge Fund. As of March 10, 2009, WinWin Partners had raised almost $17.3 million in principal investments from approximately 75 investors, most of which are located in the Dallas area, but also include investors in California. These investors have withdrawn approximately $8.4 million from the Hedge Fund, ofwhich at least $700,000 was paid out as purported profits. Nearly $9.6 million in investor principal remains unaccounted for. Consistent with his recent confession to investors, funds invested with WinWin Partners were used to pay other investors in a Ponzi fashion.

3. In an effort to prey on the panic generated by his admissions of wrongdoing, Tang
has sent e-mails to investors to persuade them to trust him with even more of their money and allow him to continue trading on their behalf. Within the last two weeks, Tang has informed investors that he is actively raising an additional $1 million to "recoup" investor losses and creating new business entities, bank accounts, and brokerage accounts to circumvent action by the Commission and/or the Ontario Securities Commission.

4. The Commission, in the interest of protecting investors from any further illegal
activity, brings this action against the Defendants and Relief Defendants, seeking as applicable permanent in junctive relief, disgorgement of all illicit profits and benefits Defendants or Relief Defendants have received plus accrued prejudgment interest, civil monetary penalties, the appointment of a receiver over assets traceable to investor funds and other emergency and equitable relief.

5. This Court has jurisdiction over this action pursuant to § 22(a) of the Securities
Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), § 27 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange
Act") and § 214 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 ("Advisers Act"). Defendants, directly and indirectly, made use of the mails and of the means and instrumentalities of interstate
commerce in connection with the acts, practices and courses of business described in this Complaint. Venue is proper because certain of the transactions, acts, practices and courses of
business described below occurred within the jurisdiction of the Northern District of Texas.

6. Weizhen Tang, age 50, of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, is the manager of Oversea
Chinese Fund Limited Partnership, a Toronto-based hedge fund, whose general partner is Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc. Tang is also the owner and co-CEO of Weizhen Tang Corp.,
the owner ofJ.O.R & Associates, LLC, and the owner ofWinWin Capital Management, LLC.

7. Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership (the "Hedge Fund") is a limited
partnership organized in December 2001 under the laws ofthe province of Ontario.
8. Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc. ("WTA"), is an Ontario corporation that
serves as the general partner of the Hedge Fund. WTA's officers and directors are Tang and Hong Xiao, his wife.

9. Weizhen Tang Corp. ("WTC") is an Ontario corporation that, according to its
website (www.wtang.com). is primarily engaged in the management of private equity funds and hedge funds. WTC's officers and directors are Tang (chairman and secretary), his daughter Wenyi Tang (director and secretary), and Jiehua "Jay" Yu (officer).

10. WinWin Capital Management, LLC, (the "Adviser"), a Texas limited liability
company with its principal office in Plano, Texas, has been registered as an investment adviser with the Texas State Securities Board since July 2008. While Tang owns the Adviser, it is managed by Jiehua "Jay" Yu.

11. WinWin Capital Limited Partnership ("WinWin Partners"), a Texas limited
partnership with its principal office in Plano, Texas, was created to invest partnership funds in SEC v. Oversea Chinese Fund, L.P., et a/.

the Hedge Fund. The limited partners of WinWin Partners, located primarily in the Dallas, Texas, area are the individual investors who, along with investors directly solicited by Tang, are the victims of the fraud in this case. WinWin Partners' sole general partner is J.O.R & Associates, LLC.

。。。。

13. WinWin Capital Partners, L.P., a Delaware limited partnership authorized to do
business in the State of Texas, lists as its principal office the Adviser's address in Plano, Texas.
The general partner of WinWin Capital Partners, LP is the Adviser. A private offering
memorandum for WinWin Capital Partners, LP, dated July 1, 2008, states that the minimum
investment in WinWin Capital Partners, LP is $250,000. WinWin Capital Partners, LP, was
formed to provide Tang's U.S. investors with greater transparency over his investment decisions
using their funds. WinWin Capital Partners, L.P. is named as a relief defendant solely for the
purpose of obtaining equitable relief.

14. Bluejay Investment, LLC, d/b/a Vintage International Investment, LLC
("Bluejay Investment"), a Texas limited liability company, lists as its principal office the
Adviser's address in Plano, Texas. U.S. investor funds were diverted to an account in the name
of Bluejay Investment. Bluejay Investment is named as a relief defendant solely for the purpose of obtaining equitable relief.

BACKGROUND FACTS

15. Weizhen Tang, a Chinese Canadian living in the Greater Toronto Area, is a
prominent figure in the Chinese community in North America. In December 2001, Tang created
the Hedge Fund under the laws of the province of Ontario. Hedge Fund offering documents
provide that: (i) the Hedge Fund has been active since 2004; (ii) Tang is the trading manager and
WTA is the general partner; (iii) the offering started in May 2004; (iv) "prospected partners must
be qualified accredit (sic) investors only" [citing Rule 501 of Reg D]; (v) the minimum initial
investment in the Hedge Fund is $150,000; and (vi) "[b]ased on past performance ... the system
the Trading Manager will utilize has produced an average return of 32% per year for index and currencies."

16. According to the Hedge Fund's website (www.wtang.com). Tang, during the four
years since the Hedge Fund was established, achieved an "average annual return rate [of] over 40%" by:
? integrating stock indexes, foreign exchanges, and futures into reliable short-term
speculations;
? seeking "consistent returns with minimum risk: 1% weekly profit;" and
? keeping "99% of the total investment pool outside the market for safekeeping, while amplifying the remaining 1% with certain leverage.
Tang's purported investment strategy is to invest 99 percent of the total investment pool in conservative, out-of-the market investments like bonds and certificates of deposit and 1 percent of the investment pool in speculative short-term investments. The Hedge Fund provides investors with periodic account statements Via its website, and investors use personalized user names and passwords to monitor their accounts. The Hedge Fund is comprised of more than
200 investors who have collectively invested between $50 and $75 million. The Hedge Fund does not charge investors a fee on the first six percent of profit, but it charges a 25 percent "management" fee on any additional profit.

17. Since at least November 2007, Tang has directly and indirectly solicited U.S.
investors to invest in the Hedge Fund. At least two U.S. investors have directly invested in
Oversea Chinese Fund through Tang's website solicitation.

18. Tang has further indirectly solicited U.S. investors by causing the creation of
WinWin Capital Limitefcd Partners ("WinWin Partners") and by offering and selling limited
partnership interests in the entity. WinWin Partners' sole business is investing partnership
capital in the Hedge Fund. The minimum investment in WinWin Partners is $100,000 and
partnership interests are sold in units; each unit costing $50,000. Investors sign partnership
agreements with WinWin Partners, which set forth that the "purpose of the partnership is to
invest the capital of the Partnership in such investments as [JOR] shall determine in its sole
discretion to be advisable or advantageous to the Partnership." WinWin Partners funds were
held in a bank account, invested in a certificate of deposit or invested solely with the Hedge Fund.

19. The WinWin Partners' partnership agreement provides that JOR, as general
partner, does not charge a fee on the first 6 percent of profit, but charges a 25 percent fee on any
additional profit, mirroring the fee arrangement described on the Hedge Fund's website. JOR
was created in late 2006 and listed Jiehua "Jay" Yu, Xiaohong Peng, and Richard Gu as its
members. Effective January 1, 2007, Tang acquired from Yu, Gu, and Peng their ownership interests in JOR. Pursuant to a compensation agreement, Tang retained Yu, Gu, and Peng as managers ofJOR to manage the day-to-day operations ofWinWin Partners.

20. As of March 10, 2009, WinWin Partners raised almost $17.3 million from
investors in Texas and California. Even though Tang's U.S. investors were limited partners in WinWin Partners, Tang created an account for each investor on his website in Canada. Using this Internet access, each U.S. investor was shown an account that purported to represent the investor's current investment results, including daily and cumulative trading results. If a U.S. investor desired to withdraw some, or all, of the investment with Tang, a form was submitted to WinWin Partners to redeem the investor's interest in the Hedge Fund. These redemption requests were processed in Texas but were not paid unless Tang personally approved the redemption request. Once approved, a check ora wire transfer was arranged by WinWin Partners to deliver funds pursuant to the redemption request. Of the funds raised from investors, Tang returned approximately $8.4 million to investors, of which at least $700,000 was characterized as profits and used to compute management fees due to JOR. Nearly $9.6 million in investor principal remains unaccounted for.

。。。。。


22. On February 7, 2009, Tang sent an e-mail to all Hedge Fund investors,
acknowledging that the public demonstration had failed. Although Tang claimed not to have lost money during the demo, he conceded that the results were far from his stated goal of one percent per week. As an apparent result of the demonstration's failure, many investors lost confidence in his trading abilities and closed their accounts or attempted to withdraw large amounts of money
from the Hedge Fund. Tang informed investors that the Hedge Fund had insufficient assets from which to pay the withdrawal requests. And, Tang vowed to return all principal to investors within six months and noted that it would not affect the Hedge Fund's normal operation.

23. On February 27,2009, approximately 200 Hedge Fund investors met with Tang in
Toronto. Among the attendees at the meeting was a contingent of the Dallas-area investors. During the meeting, many investors confronted Tang about his repeated failures to honor withdrawal requests. In response, Tang admitted that (i) the Hedge Fund had no more money,
(ii) deposits into the Hedge Fund by new investors had been used to pay withdrawals and purported profits to earlier investors, and (iii) the information posted on the Hedge Fund website, showing the daily value of each investor's account, was false. Hedge Fund investors in the
Toronto area elected individuals to serve on a volunteer committee (the "Toronto Committee") to act on their behalf to investigate Tang's fraud. Likewise, the Dallas-area investors elected 12



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发表于 2010-11-15 22:07:11 | 只看该作者
真的假不了,假的真不了。
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真的假不了,假的真不了。
torontohankou 发表于 2010-11-15 22:07

只一句话,你就把所有证据打发了。让关心唐炜臻的人白忙活半天。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-16 02:39:59 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 酒中仙 于 2010-11-16 09:26 编辑

多伦多英文媒体最近的一篇关于“华人巴斐特”唐炜臻的详细报道

这篇报道提到,老唐的唯一的一个白人客户,是在他宣布账号里只剩1400元钱之前一个星期刚刚投入170000元给唐。。。。。。。这篇文章也指出了白领犯罪案件审理的困难性。

THE TORONTO LIFE MAGAZINE, NOVEMBER ISSUE

The 1% Club
Victims of the alleged fraudster Weizhen Tang—a.k.a. the Chinese Bernie Madoff—want their $30 million back. What are the chances?

By Nicholas Stein

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/from-print-edition-informer/2010/11/15/the-1-club-the-story-behind-weizhen-tang%E2%80%94toronto%E2%80%99s-bernie-madoff/


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本帖最后由 酒中仙 于 2010-11-16 04:03 编辑

[转贴]唐案受害者呈送法官的一封控告信(摘要)

转贴者按:这封控告信披露,老唐把2002-2003年危机的受害客户的损失转换成其后的海外华人基金OCF的股份,一方面借此稳住前一批受害者,一方面开始用更高的调门,在更大的规模,更大的范围内圈钱。由此看来,前一批受害者可能在唐的新一波圈钱运动中得益并及时脱身。而唐在2007-2008危机中,再一次使用同一招数,进一步提高了调门,目标直指17000亿国家主权基金。看清了这一点,围观者就可以明白,为什么唐的受害客户分裂。


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尊敬的法官,我认为唐炜臻应该得以严惩。理由如下:

1.唐炜臻故意违反安省和加拿大的法规和法律。
作为公民,我们知道,在享受自己国家自由的同时,无论是谁,必须遵守这个国家的法律。然而,唐炜臻是一个为自己的利益,而视他人利益,公共道德,国家法律于不顾的人。他违背安省证监法吸纳我们的投资资金。他伪造每周1%的虚假利润客户账户,而且一再在公众场合告诉我们"你们的投资资金是安全的"。 直到2月27日他才承认账户上只剩下1000多元。当时我们简直无法相信这个残酷的事实。华人巴菲特原来是华人马道夫。在投资者遭受重大损失后,这个恶魔竟然胆敢在自己的博客里自称1%周回报率之王。在他的博客里,他还明目张胆宣扬他的抗法有理之道, 称:“对于证券会的作用与意义,我是有悟性的人,从一开始就不相信和极力回避,斗不过,希望能躲得过。” “安省证监会不是在保护投资者的利益,而是在伤害投资者的利益。只有我是在保护投资者的利益。”当OSC勒令其停止为客户做交易后,他又蛊惑客户,把客户损失归罪于证券会的停牌行动。鼓动客户动议对抗OSC,以影响法庭对OSC起诉唐案的判决。最近, 他又通过媒体说:“我没有罪,如果证明我有罪的话,一定是法律有问题。”

2.唐炜臻是个善于制造骗局的人,是一个为了自己的目的, 企图制造一个更大的骗局的人,是一个有历史记录的人。

唐炜臻在1998年至2003年,为客户操盘屡屡失败巨亏后,他的状况已经到了无法再做靠帮人操股赚钱维持生计的地步,然而,就在他一边靠出租地下室,一边重新房屋贷款维持生活的同时,他制造了一个更大骗局,那就是把以前客户的损失转换成现在的海外华人基金OCF的股份。同时,他拉靠名人重新提高自己的层次,通过出书,媒体曝光把自己成功包装成华人巴非特,再安排手下人员提供虚假的帐单审查记录,虚假盈利,让投资人信以为真,投入巨额。我们这些海外华人基金OCF后期百余投资客,为此身受其害,血本无归, 而这一切,最初起因就是由于唐炜臻靠赔付客户损失这一“壮举”。

尊敬的法官,而更可怕的是,在今天,劣迹斑斑的唐炜臻居然还信誓旦旦,说他有办法要还客户的钱。3000万哪,绝对不是一个小数目. 他相信这不算什么,他还能骗到更多的投资钱。

尊敬的法官,我们希望法庭能判唐炜臻的后半生在监狱里渡过。我们都是受害人,我们损失了自己的血汗钱,我们的生活由此改变,我们做梦都想把钱拿回来。但是,我们不希望唐炜臻这样一个的巨骗再出来骗更多人。

3.唐炜臻不仅在过去伤害了客户的经济利益,而且直到现在,唐炜臻还在继续对客户进行精神伤害。
我们经常可以看到投资人来信出现在唐的博客上,鼓励唐炜臻操盘,鼓励他东山再起,诋毁报案客户。在过去,唐炜臻和其工作人员或朋友,不止一次假冒客户的名义吹捧唐炜臻的操盘技术和为人诚信,使不知底细的投资人受骗上当。今天,我们希望法官彻查那些为唐炜臻开脱求情的唐炜臻客户,那些人极有可能是假冒的,或者双重身份。我们希望,法庭能早日监禁唐炜臻,停止唐炜臻极其帮凶对受害人的挑寻伤害,停止他们对社会的欺骗。

4。唐炜臻拒不招认同伙,理应受到严判。
众所周知,这样一个大规模的诈骗,靠一个人设计,运作,解决危机,伪装,决断,是不可能完成的。但唐把所有的责任都揽在他一个人身上。我们希望法官,基于唐炜臻不配合调查,不坦白的真相的事实,予以严惩。一些人还鼓励他继续他的骗局;一些人还恐吓向警方和证监会报告的客户。一些客户至今都不敢站出来举报。在他博客里2009年12月28日发布了他的计划里,还把客户分成了不同的类别。在整个投资从开始到现在的过程中,我们接触唐炜臻的工作人员妻子萧红以及俞洁华,和现在的无畏不惧厚颜无耻的唐炜臻一模一样骗人。我们认为,唐炜臻有同伙,有帮凶,而且还不少。请法庭明查。

尊敬的法官,我们在希望骗子恶魔唐炜臻得到重判的同时,也更希望法庭能对参与推销欺骗的同伙包括其客户予以罚款,以补偿受害人的经济损失。

我们知道我们的钱大部分不是被唐炜臻操盘经营输掉了,而是被唐炜臻作为虚假利润或本金发给了别的客户。我们请求法官指定相关部门为OCF重新做账,给每一个投资人一份真实的盈亏帐单。根据真实的帐单为客户进行多退少补。

尊敬的法官,我们受害人,现在,钱不仅给唐炜臻骗没有了,而且精神也受到很大伤害,我们没钱也没有能力去一家家把该属于我们的钱要回来。请求法官为受害人制定RECEIVER,以切实办理查账追款的事宜。

感谢您给予我们的理解。
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来源:正道网
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发表于 2010-11-16 09:39:46 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 torontohankou 于 2010-11-16 09:40 编辑

鉴于大家将网上或报纸上的文章,在这里展示作证据的做法,我不能赞同。原因在于,网站和新闻媒体都是有利益关系的。举例来说,楼上的正道网,如果你们去过,就知道这个网站的设立目的就是攻击唐先生。所以这个网站的帖,我基本是不信的。我希望看些除了原告和被告以外第三方的分析。
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发表于 2010-11-16 10:02:16 | 只看该作者
没有任何一个故事经法庭证实,最多是谣言和中伤,无所谓,对我已经没有杀伤力了。
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发表于 2010-11-16 10:04:14 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 fishhawk 于 2010-11-16 10:05 编辑
鉴于大家将网上或报纸上的文章,在这里展示作证据的做法,我不能赞同。原因在于,网站和新闻媒体都是有利益关系的。举例来说,楼上的正道网,如果你们去过,就知道这个网站的设立目的就是攻击唐先生。所以这个网站的帖,我基本是不信的。我希望看些除了原告和被告以外第三方的分析。
torontohankou 发表于 2010-11-16 09:39



    Then you have to wait until all the evidences are revealed during trial and become part of public records. You should know that in a forum like this , no 'official' evidence would be revealed by those who are in the know, as Tang is also lurking around. And who knows, lots of fake IDs of Tang fishing for info.

I would only hope that one day when the dust settles, you will come back here and review your own posts and realize how wrong you are about Tang as a person.

Have a good life.
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发表于 2010-11-16 10:16:49 | 只看该作者
313楼的朋友,我说网上和媒体流传的证据不可信,并不表明唐先生就被我立刻认定为有罪或是无罪。我之所以觉得唐先生是无辜的是来自于我的分析。我也断定,因加拿大亲美势力对此案的影响,唐先生极有可能被判入狱,罪名就是现在很多人认定的欺诈。其实这个审判的目的就是让华人社区的亲华势力掂量掂量,将来如果加拿大站在美国一方,华人有谁敢站起来。如果有人敢站起来,同样的事再如法炮制一遍。让亲华势力名誉扫地。
今天我看到一则新闻,奥巴马本人对电视主持人索耶(Diane Sawyer)说,我宁愿当一任好总统也不愿当两任平庸总统。按照一般人的想法,如果是好总统怎么会不当选两任呢?答案就是,大多数人是愚蠢的,能明辨的是极少数的。
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发表于 2010-11-16 10:45:15 | 只看该作者
http://myninjaproxy.info/browse.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.51.ca%2Fthread-263709-1-2.html&b=6
请大家看第七楼发言。文章写得好。
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