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归途如虹

芸芸众生，我非常看重你说的机会！！！请告诉我你的这个经历！！！同胞们从有了较好工作的到海在打体力工的全都需要这个经验！！！大家热切的希望你与同胞们分享！！！我自己已经收藏了你的这贴，不论如何也要请教你这一点。因为这个对中国移民实在是太重要的信息了！请芸芸众生斑竹同情你的同胞们！！！我已经为此给芸芸众生发了几个短信息，并告诉了她我的MSN，可至今没有回答，请你老人家回答同胞们的疑问！所有的同胞们谢谢、谢谢、再谢谢你了！！！！！！！！！！！


最初由[芸芸众生]发布
也找人力资源部谈谈。

那时我就是这样找的，我说没有人请我干活，我怎样生活？ 体力活吃不消，这里的公司不聘我，说我以前是工程师，现在不能回归本行，人家说给你些经济资助，读书去吧！

结果还是不错的。

哇咧

Sedona

Relax and read what they said.

Telling them the mistakes they have made, though bitter, is constructive criticism good for them.

They really have made some mistakes.  The whole incident has nothing to do with them being Chinese or new immigrants.

Unless they change their work attitude, they will have the same trouble every where.  In fact, one of them was terminated by another employer because of similar trouble with his Vietnamese supervisor.

青山下

最初由[归途如虹]发布
芸芸众生，我非常看重你说的机会！！！请告诉我你的这个经历！！！

芸芸众生，我非常看重你说的机会！！！请告诉我你的这个经历！！！同胞们从有了较好工作的到海在打体力工的全都需要这个经验！！！大家热切的希望你与同胞们分享！！！我自己已经收藏了你的这贴，不论如何也要请教你这一点。因为这个对中国移民实在是太重要的信息了！请芸芸众生斑竹同情你的同胞们！！！我已经为此给芸芸众生发了几个短信息，并告诉了她我的MSN，可至今没有回答，请你老人家回答同胞们的疑问！所有的同胞们谢谢、谢谢、再谢谢你了！！！！！！！！！！！



你真相信她说的话 ?

青山下

最初由[Sedona]发布
Relax and read what they said.

Telling them the mistakes they have made, though bitter, is constructive criticism good for them.

They really have made some mistakes.  The whole incident has nothing to do with them being Chinese or new immigrants.

Unless they change their work attitude, they will have the same trouble every where.  In fact, one of them was terminated by another employer because of similar trouble with his Vietnamese supervisor.

看到所有的贴子了吗?
那是你们这些人永远也不会理解的.
因为你们也永远不会改变对华人的恶劣心态.
你们这些人是多么的让人恶心!
我为加拿大有你这样的华人感到耻辱!.

Sedona

最初由[青山下]发布


看到所有的贴子了吗?
那是你们这些人永远也不会理解的.
因为你们也永远不会改变对华人的恶劣心态.
你们这些人是多么的让人恶心!
我为加拿大有你这样的华人感到耻辱!.


Evidence - something is not right with the Chinese culture.

梦工作室

我们的质量上说3道4。请发悄悄话告诉我你的联系办法。

（不要顾虑，我不是看热闹不嫌事大的主。）

青山下

最初由[Sedona]发布



Evidence - something is not right with the Chinese culture.

维护公民的合法权益,不是你说的Chinese culture.
这也是你们反复声称的人权,懂了吗!
把任何你认为错误的事情都打上Chinese culture的印记加以鞭伐是所有反华份子的一贯伎俩.

ffgg123

最初由[芨芨草]发布
回复：二位够男人!



我就是姜先生，谢谢你的支持，你说的很对，如果有可能大家建立一个华人打工者组织或工会，用集体的力量来克服华人的这个弱点，我有勇无谋，如果需要我往上冲的，招呼一声没地说。至于这次我只能做到这里了，一方面是英语不行，另一方面我这人太冲，确实没有把阿差管工放在眼里。再者靠一个人的力量确实走不了太远，个人没有那么多的时间、精力、财力，还是呼吁大家团结起来拧成一股绳，搞个工会来解决问题。抛砖引玉希望各种各样的中国人联合起来保护自己。


生活是美好的，如果交换位置，你是管工，一个新来到工人当作其他工人的面，和你争吵，不服从他的安排，你又会怎么做？

如果说别人歧视你，你先歧视了你的管工，在你的心里，你的管工不过是一个“阿差管工”以前的管工不过是一个越南人，也许在中国你是干部或者领导人，你根本在心里看不起印度人或者是越南人，所以你在工作中才会和你的管工发生冲突
如果你用鄙视的心理去对待一个人，你得到的也是鄙视，
不要说在加拿大中国人被歧视，中国人除了白人，歧视所有的民族。
既然来到加拿大就是新的生活，新的开始，我们需要尊重每一个，只有你尊重别人才回得到一样的回报。 :smile:
另外在加拿大组织中国人的工会本身就是一种反种族歧视的歧视，
一个公司要有工会，是需要全体工人投票，需要老板的同意才可以有工会，如果老板不喜欢工会，可以把你们想成为工会的人全部开除，了解情况后，不要口是心非，对于你在加拿大的生活会很有帮助

jony0023

支持哥俩!

祥之

赞一下，我们中国的男人！！

mahu

虽然有语法错误，但这并不妨碍他们表达自己的不平和愤懑，比那些从不犯语法错误，但却一辈子都夹着尾巴在主流后面摇尾乞怜的二鬼子强多了！

中国人里很有一部分中山狼似的人物，得志便猖狂，看不起没出头的底层弟兄，整天嘲笑别人身上的所谓缺陷，笑人齿缺的同时竟对自己的狗窦大开毫无意识！

被封了

最初由[Sedona]发布
Relax and read what they said.

Telling them the mistakes they have made, though bitter, is constructive criticism good for them.

They really have made some mistakes.  The whole incident has nothing to do with them being Chinese or new immigrants.

Unless they change their work attitude, they will have the same trouble every where.  In fact, one of them was terminated by another employer because of similar trouble with his Vietnamese supervisor.

Sedona,

I believe these two men were treated unfairly by the supervisor. The supervisor let them do more than others did. In your opinion, what is the best way to ask for a fair answer?

In their protest, the words “Canada is a civilization country?", "need a job to live” and "have right to work" are irrelevant, making no sense. The words "abusively treated at work" are the right issue for the protest. I think these two men should only focus on this matter- unfair treatment at work.

In workplace, for safety reason, you can say "no" to supervisor under law. Otherwise, if you said no, you could get trouble and the chance to get a justice is unlikely.

ffgg123

姜先生，他自己承认没有把“阿差管工放在眼里。”

这就是所有的冲突开始，可能你们都没有成为过管工，如果一个新人，不服从他的安排，他以后怎么去管理其他人员，是姜先生先鄙视他的老板。

新移民来到加拿大因该学习怎么谋生，这就是为什么有的新移民很快融入这个社会，有的可以20年都找不到方向

Sedona

最初由[被封了]发布


Sedona,

I believe these two men were treated unfairly by the supervisor. The supervisor let them do more than others did. In your opinion, what is the best way to ask for a fair answer?

In their protest, the words “Canada is a civilization country?", "need a job to live” and "have right to work" are irrelevant, making no sense. The words "abusively treated at work" are the right issue for the protest. I think these two men should only focus on this matter- unfair treatment at work.

In workplace, for safety reason, you can say "no" to supervisor under law. Otherwise, if you said no, you could get trouble and the chance to get a justice is unlikely.


Whether they were treated unfairly is hard to say.  They have worked there for like 3 days only.  In law, given such a short period of time, they don't have a case to prove unfair treatment or anything.

I agree civilization, rights to work, Chinese and new immigrants are all irrelevant.  I also agree except safety reasons, an employee cannot say no to instructions from a superior.

Regarding abusive treatment, that's even harder to prove.  Such an allegation will become a lawsuit.

My advice is to argue the termination is departure from the normal termination process, which involves either a verbal or a written warning. On the spot termination occurs when the staff's behaviour will become "toxic" to the workplace.  Unfortunately, these guys had a verbal altercation with their supervisor, which is toxic to the workplace.

In my humble opinion, they don't have a case.