1. Both of Mr.Zhao’ brothers are kind people with some good social and technical skills. That is why 51.ca is successful.
2. Both of Mr.Zhao’s brothers have done so many good things (I can lists them out ), but why do so many people still ”不买 their 帐”?
There are 2 main reasons as follows, I think.
a. They do not really understand what the public service in a public business is. Or say "What are the essential concepts of public service in a business?" Of course, their current level in service is much higher than the average of Chinese Toronto community. I refers to the real success in a business. So far there is a big and wide gap to a good achievement.
b. Relating with the above (a), the management system of 51.ca is a bottleneck. I think it indeed needs a breakthrough if Mr.Zhao’s brothers do not want to sell their website and treat it as their son or their career.
3. So, you’d better plan it well before you really “招聘记者编辑”….. I.e it might be successful, who knows, but so far I am not optimistic about it.
4. I really want our community to have an outstanding media. So, best wishes to 51.ca.
1. Both of Mr.Zhao’ brothers are kind people with some good social and technical skills. That is why 51.ca is successful.
2. Both of Mr.Zhao’s brothers has done so many good things (I can lists them out ), but why do so many people still ”不买 their 帐”?
There are 2 main reasons as follows, I think.
a. They do not really understand what the public service in a public business is. Or say what are the essential concepts of public service in a business? Of course, their current is much higher than the average of Chinese Toronto community. I refers to the real success in a business.
b. Relating with the above a, the management system of 51.ca is a bottleneck. I think it indeed needs a breakthrough if Mr.Zhao’s brothers do not want to sell their website and treat it as their son or their career.
3. So, you’d better plan it well before you really “招聘记者编辑”….. I.e it might be successful, who knows, but so far I am not optimistic about it.
4. I really want our community to have an outstanding media. So, best wishes to 51.ca.作者: 哇咧 时间: 2007-3-19 10:37 标题: 你们没听够你们就去吧 最初由[alfonso]发布
sunny2008和赵平波先生们探讨过邀请刘欢来做专场演出的可行性,10万元的演员劳务费,25元的票价,20000人保证的票房收入.赢利全部用于慈善.
不能自娱，焉能娱人作者: lytop 时间: 2007-3-19 12:02 标题: The problem is ... It is very hard to find a best way to make everybody happy or get what they want.
E.g. I want to learn "BeiJing Opera", if in china, I can easily to find a place, but in toronto I never heard sb talking about it. If a guy want to learn "Si Chuan change face", it is more impossible. But all of these things can be easily get done in china.
Basis of culture is very hard to build, specially for chinese. Do NOT forget there are 56 nations, 31 provinces, 3000 counties, 1.4billion ppl in china. You can not replicate a china in toronto.
Make sense?作者: 哇咧 时间: 2007-3-19 12:35 标题: 回复：The problem is ... 最初由[lytop]发布 The problem is ...
It is very hard to find a best way to make everybody happy or get what they want.
E.g. I want to learn "BeiJing Opera", if in china, I can easily to find a place, but in toronto I never heard sb talking about it. If a guy want to learn "Si Chuan change face", it is more impossible. But all of these things can be easily get done in china.
Basis of culture is very hard to build, specially for chinese. Do NOT forget there are 56 nations, 31 provinces, 3000 counties, 1.4billion ppl in china. You can not replicate a china in toronto.
Make sense?
You answered your own question. With so many options, why are your holding yourself on BeiJing Opera? 传统文化拜师学艺的过程非常复杂，不似在北美什么玩意买盘DVD，买本书就能学。作者: lytop 时间: 2007-3-19 12:41 标题: That's a sample I just say "Beijing Opera" is one of my expecting thing what I want to learn and hear. It does NOT mean you or sb else need learn it. There is only 1% ppl like it. In china also, maybe less than 1%.
The point is, if you want to get more native chinese culture things or enjoy it, you have to stay in a place with good conditions. If in toronot, there are enough chinese population, you will find it is easy to get what you like and want.
If I find a place to learn, hear or sing "Beijing Opera". for me, I will very satisfied with the "culture basis" in Toronto.
Do you get the point?作者: 哇咧 时间: 2007-3-19 12:58 标题: 回复：That's a sample 最初由[lytop]发布 That's a sample
I just say "Beijing Opera" is one of my expecting thing what I want to learn and hear. It does NOT mean you or sb else need learn it. There is only 1% ppl like it. In china also, maybe less than 1%.
The point is, if you want to get more native chinese culture things or enjoy it, you have to stay in a place with good conditions. If in toronot, there are enough chinese population, you will find it is easy to get what you like and want.
If I find a place to learn, hear or sing "Beijing Opera". for me, I will very satisfied with the "culture basis" in Toronto.
Do you get the point?
honestly, I don't get the point and probably never will.
京剧讲究 唱念坐打，风格有传统现代，流派也有好几个，如果我有此兴趣，一定先上网搜索
把能收集到手的资料都看一遍，掰开了，嚼碎了，实践了，练习了，到湖南晚会，rolia晚会上玩票几把，再来感叹什么多伦多学京戏无门。作者: 独立意志 时间: 2007-3-19 13:05 标题: Forget it. 作者: lytop 时间: 2007-3-19 13:11 标题: You are a guy think internet is everything
So, you are probably staying at home or somewhere surf on internet everyday. because "On the internet, nobody knows you are a dog. "
But, cultural thing is NOT internet, you can learn or research sth by yourself, but it is NOT a culture. You may learned a lot, but you can not feel it. Culture is the heritage from your ancestor. Today if you think you are a chinese, because you get your culture from your parents. if sb looks like chinese but does NOT speak any chinese, he called CBC or banana man.
Cultrure can NOT get just from CD or Internet, if it can, we need NOT invite Liu Huan or sb come to Toronto to sing, because sb can study sing like Liu Huan from CD or TV. Is it what you mean and want?
DIY is not suitable for culture.作者: 哇咧 时间: 2007-3-19 13:45 标题: that's why I think there is no 出路 My understanding of culture -you can feel it to learn it but you don't have to learn it to feel it. Even if you are living in China right now you wouldn't be able understand or keep up with the fashion, the trends, the pop culture. More cultivated the people, more streams the people are facing.
For CBC and banana man/woman, there could be minor frustration, but it doesn't matter. The transition period is over and it wouldn't come again, unless he or she wants to go back to a Chinese region, which is always difficult for a foreigner going to a stranger country.
For 京剧 and other 戏曲, it's definitely going down for sure, no way to salvage. A small piece of 唱段 can be found entertaining on a 晚会， but it's hard to learn it systematically.作者: lytop 时间: 2007-3-19 13:59 标题: So, NO way could be For this topic, I think it could be one of "immigrantion lose and get". It will be never getting end. Also, everybody has their own understanding of it.
For small nations (like us in Toronto), it is too hard to keep their own culture. Just like a lot of nations melted into chinese in history.
Can NOT be strong enough, then will be weak in the next step.作者: jan_ai Zhang 时间: 2007-3-19 15:12 标题: 回复：be specific, please. 最初由[哇咧]发布 be specific, please.
What you are talking about is strategical, and what we need is something tactical.
I think that "a person's 思想, 理论, 意识, 世界（人生）观, 道德, 言行（谈）举止" decide that he goes to what rank in his career or achievement after he was exhausted by his career in tactics.
----- It is at this stage that Mr. Zhao's brothers are.
One example which you may think that it is not relative with our topic.
Some years ago, a handsome Chinese friend really wanted to get a posion in our office. In the first 2 rounds, most of us intended to accept him because his comprehensive capability was much higher that others. But finally the boss said "No." After that, in some tea time, the boss told me that first in his mind he already decided to give an approval to him. However, once the boss happened to see that in washroom he did not push a toilet handle by his hand but by his foot, the boss changed his mind. (I am sure that the washroom usually is very clean with good condition).
"after 给 you 10万块， you 都不想看刘欢。" But you have to 看 other 欢, such as Wu 欢, Wang 欢 or [哇咧] 欢.
A human being cannot always sleep with your 10万块 .
So 文化生活 is always needed. It depends on what people to do and how to do.
I was watching the case of 张悦欢，and some other people said it was a very entertaining case. I would agree on this point.
I also agree that *文化生活 is always needed. It depends on what people to do and how to do.*
We need to address on specifically a project that will make people enjoy the 文化生活, share the happiness, and promote the community strength.Most importantly the project has to have a good budget control.
The is no need to give me 10万块 to watch Liu Huan. Let's save it for something better in the life. It will be a blowout news if people read something like 加国惊爆中国文化盲，倒贴10万才肯看刘欢. But the fact is that 10万块 can hardly pay off the fee for my psychological consultation.作者: 哇咧 时间: 2007-3-19 16:26 标题: 回复：这种书夫郎一晚上能写好几本呢 最初由[哇咧]发布 这种书夫郎一晚上能写好几本呢
After ten exhausting years in show business, I wanted out. I looked behind me and saw a lack of formal education (I had given up my schooling to pursue acting full-time at a young age). I looked ahead of me and couldn't even begin to imagine what I would do with my life. I saw no way out.
In the story of Passover, one of the most famous scenes we all know about is the splitting of the sea. Knowing the end, it's exciting to us now. But what about all of those people who went through the experience themselves? How would you feel?
The Jews had been enslaved in Egypt for 210 years. Then Moses and Aaron led them out, with the Egyptians in hot pursuit. The Jews look behind them and see the Egyptians coming after them. They look ahead of them and see the Sea of Reeds. No way out! It was beyond human comprehension to imagine there could be any way to be saved. And that's when God dramatically swooped in to rescue His children, in a manner in which they never, ever, would have dared to imagine. He split the sea, saved the Jews, and drowned the Egyptians.
It's common to group Emuna (faith) and Bitachon (trust) together and think they are essentially the same. I recently learned the difference. Emuna, faith, is the intellectual understanding that God loves you enough to help you through and that everything is going to work out okay. Bitachon, trust, is putting that awareness into action. It's not enough to have that faith in your head; the challenge is to make it a real part of you, to get out there in the world and live with the trust that the Almighty will get you through.
There are times in my life where things seem hopeless. No way out. I view it as a test of my faith, and a chance to strengthen my trust in God. Although I don't see the way out, He is in charge. The plan is in His hands and beyond my comprehension.
When I was truly ready for my liberation, my exodus from the slavery of show business, it was then that suddenly out of nowhere, I got my freedom handed to me. I was given the chance to get an all-expense paid trip to Israel with a month-long stay at the Jewel program for women. I then continued to explore my roots and learn about my heritage for several more months in Jerusalem. I have settled in my new lifestyle, and have chosen a path which not only allows me to pursue my career, but also offers me a deep connection to my heritage and my soul. Now, I have a better career than I could have ever imagined. Not only have I not given up my goals and aspirations, I am more successful than ever. And it is something I would never in a million years have ever thought possible.
When I look behind me and see no help, and I look ahead of me and see no hope, I am now very sure to look above me. Maybe there's a miracle awaiting me that I couldn't fathom in my wildest dreams.作者: 退出 时间: 2007-3-19 21:34 最初由[Simon ZZ]发布
“无忧”本身已经够娱乐的了。
