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新移民法点滴----好消息还是坏消息?

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发表于 2001-12-18 20:23:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
根据今天的 Metro-Today 报道,今后移民难度太大了!因为“ Under the new point system, unless you have very,very close family here and a job offer,you're not getting in," 也就是说,你要没拿到工作 Offer 或没有非常非常近的亲戚,你就进不了加拿大。而且还说” Under the new system, the pass mark will be 80 points out of 100, up from 70". 也就是说,评分改成 80 分了。另外还有 "The new system puts much more emphasis on education,language skill, work experience and a person's ties to Canada."
你说是好消息还是坏消息?并且,在明年 6 月实施本法律之前没有面试通过的或还没有“ have been approved in principle" 的,都转为按新方法执行。
发表于 2001-12-18 20:47:41 | 显示全部楼层

老猫,能说的再详细点吗?

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 楼主| 发表于 2001-12-18 21:34:08 | 显示全部楼层
没有啊,就那么一小段消息啊。我只不过想让大家知道一下。你是移民公司办吗?申请递了多久了?问问他们吧。祝你好运!
发表于 2001-12-18 21:48:14 | 显示全部楼层

回复:老猫,能说的再详细点吗?

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老猫,能说的再详细点吗?

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http://www.51.ca/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5723
发表于 2001-12-18 21:49:41 | 显示全部楼层
我一直拖拖拉拉的。现在还没有递,想看清楚新法后在决定,很多移民公司都说新法生效前拿到档案号就可以按老法执行,我就是想打这个时间差,可是现在…… 555555555555555555
发表于 2001-12-18 21:52:45 | 显示全部楼层
现在真的很难了,已经过来的珍惜吧。
发表于 2001-12-18 22:08:36 | 显示全部楼层
原来的总分是 112 ,及格是 70 ; 现在总分是 100 吗?及格是 80 ?
各位帮我评估一下怎么才能过关 ?
91 年毕业,化学专业,在国企工作; 2000 年 MBA (非英语教学)毕业,毕业后经营一个销售公司办事处至今,英语在进步中。 我还有戏吗?????????? :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:  :confused:
 楼主| 发表于 2001-12-18 22:36:48 | 显示全部楼层
你看看种子好象有一篇比较详细的文章。再问问当地的移民公司。
发表于 2001-12-18 22:46:45 | 显示全部楼层
还看见一片文章说新移民法的实行会使很多移民公司受到影响,因为成功几率变小,如办不成他们不得不退回申请人的费用,因此会有公司破产。最重要的是外语水平要求更高,更严,标准是过来后直接可以进入工作市场 ( 专业 ) ,加拿大政府不再想每年拿出大笔资金来给新移民培训外语,所以对于非英语国家的移民影响最大。
发表于 2001-12-18 23:03:50 | 显示全部楼层

谢谢老猫,种子

在老猫的帮助下我找到了那片文章;
Jolt to immigration hopes
New rules likely to count out many applicants
Allan Thompson
OTTAWA BUREAU

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OTTAWA ?Thousands of immigration applicants may find themselves disqualified under new rules that come into effect next June.

The new rules will apply retroactively, disqualifying some applicants who would have made it under the old rules, a senior immigration official confirmed yesterday.

The immigration department yesterday released its detailed package of proposed regulations to flesh out the new immigration law that was passed last month.

The Canadian Bar Association, the national organization representing Canada's lawyers, reacted with horror.

"The government is basically going to wipe out hundreds of thousands of applications and keep the money,'' said lawyer Ben Trister, head of the immigration section of the bar association. "Under the new point system, unless you have very, very close family here and a job offer, you're not getting in.''

Trister said it looks as if the immigration department is trying to "cull'' its backlog of more than 500,000 applications by rejecting many of them.

Fellow immigration lawyer Robin Seligman, who heads the coalition Canadians for Fairness in Immigration Policy, called the proposed changes "a bloodbath."

"They have just basically shut the front door on people in spite of all this talk of closing the back door so that we can let legitimate immigrants in the front," said Seligman.

"No matter how you work out the points, you will have to have a Bachelor's degree to get into Canada. This will cut out most blue-collar workers. How many tool and dye makers or welders have that education?"

The main bone of contention is the new point system for independent immigrants and the fact the new grid will be applied retroactively to many files already in the system.

"The basic rule is that once we proclaim the act, then the new rules will apply to everyone," an immigration official told reporters yesterday during a briefing on the new rules.

It is important to distinguish between immigrants and refugees. Refugees, who come here seeking protection because they fear persecution, are put through a separate screening process. Refugees are not affected by the point system.

Immigrants, people who apply to come here to live ?not because of fear of persecution ?fall into two broad categories: independent immigrants who are selected for their skills according to a point system (about 60 per cent of immigrants) and family-class immigrants who are sponsored by family members already living here and who don't have to go through the point grid to get in (about 40 per cent.)

The new point system puts much more emphasis on education, language skills, work experience and such ties to Canada as having family here or a job offer. It eliminates the old practise of giving points for certain occupations.


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Under the new system, the pass mark will be 80 points out of 100, up from 70 out of 100 in the old system.

Critics argue the 80-point threshold is so high it will screen out many good applicants. And for most cases, the new rules will be retroactive.

In the past, when major changes in immigration rules have been brought in, prospective immigrants who already had applications in the system had their files processed under the old regulations. In administrative circles, that is called "grandfathering,'' or allowing existing applications to go forward under the old criteria when the rules change.

But the immigration official said the department doesn't want to have two systems operating in parallel and opted instead to limit the grandfathering of old provisions.

"We have applied a principle of grandfathering in the past, we took a different approach with this legislation," the official said.

There are more than 500,000 immigration applications in the pipeline right now and about 60 per cent of those involve independent applicants who want to come to Canada in the skilled-worker category and must go through the point system. The other 40 per cent involve family-class applicants who are chosen for their family ties, not their skills, so they will not be impacted by the point system changes.

But the 300,000 or so applications under the skilled-worker category ?many of those filed months or even years ago at posts around the world ?will be directly affected. Only those applicants who have been approved in principle or have had an interview before the new law comes into effect next June will be judged according to the old criteria.

All other applicants will have their files transferred to the new system. The only accommodation will be for applicants who had their files in the system before the formal introduction of the regulatory package yesterday. Those people will get a five-point bonus in the scoring system as a sort of compromise for forcing their files through the new grid.

"There will be some negative impact on individuals and there will be some positive impact on individuals,'' the immigration official said.

The bar association contends the new grid sets a much higher threshold that will reject a great number of applicants who would have qualified under the old system.

"There are hundreds of thousands in the backlog who aren't going to make it here and the government is just going to keep their fees,'' Trister said.

Applicants now in the system paid non-refundable processing fees of $500 per adult and $250 per dependent child.

Trister accused Citizenship and Immigration Minister Elinor Caplan of misleading Parliament by giving a Senate committee an assurance there was no need to worry about retroactivity provisions because the new system would be so much more generous that applicants would benefit.

The immigration official conceded that if there is a great hue and cry, the department could reconsider.

"We do have some flexibility in terms of the regulatory-making power,'' the official said.

The immigration department also expects to face a legal challenge to the retroactivity from applicants who could argue they were treated unfairly because they would have been accepted under the old system but have been disqualified by the new rules.
发表于 2001-12-18 23:11:23 | 显示全部楼层

请注意:

对于正在申请中的, 6 月之前没有通过会按照新法操作,但是会有 5 分的补偿。 我要做最后一搏了 ~~~~~~~

影子,小猪猪:你们几个要靠托福的家伙,正好把它翻译出来,算练练手,对很多英语不好的人士也会有很大帮助。
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