华裔女子涉用放射性金属毒杀丈夫被控

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-9 13:17:13

据香港《星岛日报》报道，美国新泽西州一名华裔女子，被控使用放射性物质“铊”，谋杀正办理离婚手续的丈夫。

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-9 13:17:55

此女人也太歹毒了。

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-9 13:19:40

案情指出，受害人上月中出现类似流感病征，入住普林斯顿一间医院治疗，25日被诊断曾遭人下毒，翌日毒发身亡。

dggzmm · 发表于 2011-2-9 15:17:10

本帖最后由 dggzmm 于 2011-2-9 15:22 编辑

文中有错误，“铊”是有毒的重金属，但不是放射性金属。

要用铊杀人还是应该回中国，当年清华化学系女生用铊毒害室友案发被捕，仰仗有个老革命的亲属庇护，最后终止调查，未审释放，逃往美国，只留下申冤无门的受害人继续享受铊中毒后遗症带来的无尽伤害。

岁月神偷 · 发表于 2011-2-9 15:21:40

这个如果是真的话，那这女人也太毒了！
还记得当年铊中毒的那个清华女孩，生不如死。

苍苍 · 发表于 2011-2-9 15:34:47

不知该女是否出身清华？

Ming129 · 发表于 2011-2-9 16:56:22

夫妻一场，何必呢，孩子真可怜。

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-9 17:12:37

铊中毒是机体摄入含铊化合物后产生的中毒反应。铊对哺乳动物的毒性高于铅、汞等金属元素，与砷相当，其对成人的最小致死剂量为12mg/kg体重，对儿童为8.8～15mg/kg体重。中毒后表现症状为下肢麻木或疼痛、腰痛、脱发、头痛、精神不安、肌肉痛、手足颤动、走路不稳等。

shadows · 发表于 2011-2-11 00:23:30

回想起清华那个铊中毒的女孩子了，真是害惨了她和她的家人了。老天有眼不识不报时候没到，做坏事会有报应的！

*火眼金睛* · 发表于 2011-2-11 01:17:21

本帖最后由 cgigate 于 2011-2-11 01:58 编辑

。。美国新泽西州一名华裔女子，被控使用放射性物质“铊”，谋杀正办理离婚手续的丈夫。
East Sun 发表于 2011-2-9 13:17 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

你的医学或物理化学常识都有误！又让人笑了！
“铊”恐怕不属于放射性物质，以讹传讹就不好了！

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-11 09:31:44

本帖最后由 East Sun 于 2011-2-11 09:46 编辑

你的医学或物理化学常识都有误！又让人笑了！
“铊”恐怕不属于放射性物质，以讹传讹就不好了！
cgigate 发表于 2011-2-11 01:17 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

你不但医学知识贫乏有误，而且对一般的文字识别理解也有问题。更重要的是为了达到你自己不可告人的目的，善于断章取义。

你回的那一帖明明写的是：据香港《星岛日报》报道。你为什么要删除？目的何在？道德何在？

第八帖才真正是我的：铊中毒是机体摄入含铊化合物后产生的中毒反应。铊对哺乳动物的毒性高于铅、汞等金属元素，与砷相当，其对成人的最小致死剂量为12mg/kg体重，对儿童为8.8～15mg/kg体重。中毒后表现症状为下肢麻木或疼痛、腰痛、脱发、头痛、精神不安、肌肉痛、手足颤动、走路不稳等。

请看清楚了再发言，要有针对性，不要断章取义，更不要再“出洋相”了。

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-11 10:22:38

本帖最后由 East Sun 于 2011-2-11 11:02 编辑

铊是有毒的金属，这是肯定的。但有没有放射性？请看以下资料（尤其是half-life）：

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Thallium (Tl) has 25 isotopes which have atomic masses that range from 184 to 210. 203Tl and 205Tl are the only stable isotopes and 204Tl is the most stable radioisotope with a half-life of 3.78 years.
Thallium-202 (half life 12.23 days) can be made in a cyclotron[1] while thallium-204 (half life 3.78 years) is made by the neutron activation of stable thallium in a nuclear reactor.[2]
Standard atomic mass: 204.3833(2) u
Isotopes of thallium occurring within the radioactive disintegration chains of actinium, radium and thorium were known as:

radium EII : 206Tl
actinium CII : 207Tl
thorium CII : 208Tl
radium CII : 210Tl

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nuclide symbol	Z(p)	N(n)	isotopic mass (u)	half-life	nuclear spin	representative isotopic composition (mole fraction)	range of natural variation (mole fraction)	other features
nuclide symbol	excitation energy			half-life	nuclear spin	representative isotopic composition (mole fraction)	range of natural variation (mole fraction)	other features
176Tl	81	95	176.00059(21)#	5.2(+30-14) ms	(3-,4-,5-)
177Tl	81	100	176.996427(27)	18(5) ms	(1/2+)
177mTl	807(18) keV			230(40) ?s	(11/2-)
178Tl	81	97	177.99490(12)#	255(10) ms
179Tl	81	98	178.99109(5)	270(30) ms	(1/2+)
179mTl	860(30)# keV			1.60(16) ms	(9/2-)
180Tl	81	99	179.98991(13)#	1.5(2) s
181Tl	81	100	180.986257(10)	3.2(3) s	1/2+#
181mTl	857(29) keV			1.7(4) ms	9/2-#
182Tl	81	101	181.98567(8)	2.0(3) s	2-#
182m1Tl	100(100)# keV			2.9(5) s	(7+)
182m2Tl	600(140)# keV				10-
183Tl	81	102	182.982193(10)	6.9(7) s	1/2+#
183m1Tl	630(17) keV			53.3(3) ms	9/2-#
183m2Tl	976.8(3) keV			1.48(10) ?s	(13/2+)
184Tl	81	103	183.98187(5)	9.7(6) s	2-#
184m1Tl	100(100)# keV			10# s	7+#
184m2Tl	500(140)# keV			>20 ns	(10-)
185Tl	81	104	184.97879(6)	19.5(5) s	1/2+#
185mTl	452.8(20) keV			1.93(8) s	9/2-#
186Tl	81	105	185.97833(20)	40# s	(2-)
186m1Tl	320(180) keV			27.5(10) s	(7+)
186m2Tl	690(180) keV			2.9(2) s	(10-)
187Tl	81	106	186.975906(9)	~51 s	(1/2+)
187mTl	335(3) keV			15.60(12) s	(9/2-)
188Tl	81	107	187.97601(4)	71(2) s	(2-)
188m1Tl	40(30) keV			71(1) s	(7+)
188m2Tl	310(30) keV			41(4) ms	(9-)
189Tl	81	108	188.973588(12)	2.3(2) min	(1/2+)
189mTl	257.6(13) keV			1.4(1) min	(9/2-)
190Tl	81	109	189.97388(5)	2.6(3) min	2(-)
190m1Tl	130(90)# keV			3.7(3) min	7(+#)
190m2Tl	290(70)# keV			750(40) ?s	(8-)
190m3Tl	410(70)# keV			>1 ?s	9-
191Tl	81	110	190.971786(8)	20# min	(1/2+)
191mTl	297(7) keV			5.22(16) min	9/2(-)
192Tl	81	111	191.97223(3)	9.6(4) min	(2-)
192m1Tl	160(50) keV			10.8(2) min	(7+)
192m2Tl	407(54) keV			296(5) ns	(8-)
193Tl	81	112	192.97067(12)	21.6(8) min	1/2(+#)
193mTl	369(4) keV			2.11(15) min	9/2-
194Tl	81	113	193.97120(15)	33.0(5) min	2-
194mTl	300(200)# keV			32.8(2) min	(7+)
195Tl	81	114	194.969774(15)	1.16(5) h	1/2+
195mTl	482.63(17) keV			3.6(4) s	9/2-
196Tl	81	115	195.970481(13)	1.84(3) h	2-
196mTl	394.2(5) keV			1.41(2) h	(7+)
197Tl	81	116	196.969575(18)	2.84(4) h	1/2+
197mTl	608.22(8) keV			540(10) ms	9/2-
198Tl	81	117	197.97048(9)	5.3(5) h	2-
198m1Tl	543.5(4) keV			1.87(3) h	7+
198m2Tl	687.2(5) keV			150(40) ns	(5+)
198m3Tl	742.3(4) keV			32.1(10) ms	(10-)#
199Tl	81	118	198.96988(3)	7.42(8) h	1/2+
199mTl	749.7(3) keV			28.4(2) ms	9/2-
200Tl	81	119	199.970963(6)	26.1(1) h	2-
200m1Tl	753.6(2) keV			34.3(10) ms	7+
200m2Tl	762.0(2) keV			0.33(5) ?s	5+
201Tl	81	120	200.970819(16)	72.912(17) h	1/2+			Main isotope used in scintigraphy
201mTl	919.50(9) keV			2.035(7) ms	(9/2-)
202Tl	81	121	201.972106(16)	12.23(2) d	2-
202mTl	950.19(10) keV			572(7) ?s	7+
203Tl	81	122	202.9723442(14)	STABLE	1/2+	0.2952(1)	0.29494-0.29528	One of the two stable thallium isotopes
203mTl	3400(300) keV			7.7(5) ?s	(25/2+)
204Tl	81	123	203.9738635(13)	3.78(2) a	2-			Most stable thallium radioisotope
204m1Tl	1104.0(4) keV			63(2) ?s	(7)+
204m2Tl	2500(500) keV			2.6(2) ?s	(12-)
204m3Tl	3500(500) keV			1.6(2) ?s	(20+)
205Tl	81	124	204.9744275(14)	STABLE	1/2+	0.7048(1)	0.70472-0.70506	One of the two stable thallium isotopes
205m1Tl	3290.63(17) keV			2.6(2) ?s	25/2+
205m2Tl	4835.6(15) keV			235(10) ns	(35/2-)
206Tl	81	125	205.9761103(15)	4.200(17) min	0-
206mTl	2643.11(19) keV			3.74(3) min	(12-)
207Tl	81	126	206.977419(6)	4.77(2) min	1/2+
207mTl	1348.1(3) keV			1.33(11) s	11/2-
208Tl	81	127	207.9820187(21)	3.053(4) min	5(+)
209Tl	81	128	208.985359(8)	2.161(7) min	(1/2+)
210Tl	81	129	209.990074(12)	1.30(3) min	(5+)#
211Tl	81	130	210.99348(22)#	1# min [>300 ns]	1/2+#
212Tl	81	131	211.99823(32)#	30# s [>300 ns]	5+#

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-11 12:15:55

本帖最后由 East Sun 于 2011-2-11 12:21 编辑

你的医学或物理化学常识都有误！又让人笑了！
“铊”恐怕不属于放射性物质，以讹传讹就不好了！
cgigate 发表于 2011-2-11 01:17 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

你一个自称具有医学硕士学位，并在美国开业的人，居然弄出如此之大的洋相。你已经不是第一次出医学之丑了。使人不得不怀疑你的情况的真实性。

None of the thallium ordinarily found in nature is radioactive. Like all elements, there are synthetic radioactive isotopes of thallium.

Thallium Stress Test ( basic knowledge for medical professionals)

This is a type of nuclear scanning test or myocardial perfusion imaging test. It shows how well blood flows to the heart muscle. It's usually done along with an exercise stress test on a treadmill or bicycle.

The thallium stress test is useful to determine:

Extent of a coronary artery blockage
Prognosis of patients who've suffered a heart attack
Effectiveness of cardiac procedures done to improve circulation in coronary arteries
Cause(s) of chest pain
Level of exercise that a patient can safely perform

When the patient reaches his or her maximum level of exercise, a small amount of a radioactive substance called thallium is injected into the bloodstream. Then the patient lies down on a special table under a camera ("gamma camera") that can see the thallium and make pictures. The thallium mixes with the blood in the bloodstream and heart's arteries and enters heart muscle cells. If a part of the heart muscle doesn't receive a normal blood supply, less than a normal amount of thallium will be in those heart muscle cells.

The first pictures are made shortly after the exercise test and show blood flow to the heart during exercise. The heart is "stressed" during the exercise test — thus the name "stress test." The patient then lies quietly for 2-3 hours and another series of pictures is made. These show blood flow to the heart muscle during rest.

What does the thallium stress test show?

If the test is normal during both exercise and rest, then blood flow through the coronary arteries is normal. The coronary arteries supply blood to the heart muscle.
If the test shows that perfusion (blood flow) is normal during rest but not during exercise (a perfusion defect), then the heart isn't getting enough blood when it must work harder than normal. This may be due to a blockage in one or more coronary arteries.
If the test is abnormal during both exercise and rest, there's limited blood flow to that part of the heart at all times.
If no thallium is seen in some part of the heart muscle, the cells in this part of the heart are dead from a prior heart attack. (They have become scar tissue.)

*火眼金睛* · 发表于 2011-2-11 23:13:35

本帖最后由 cgigate 于 2011-2-11 23:44 编辑

你一个自称具有医学硕士学位，并在美国开业的人，居然弄出如此之大的洋相。你已经不是第一次出医学之丑了。使人不得不怀疑你的情况的真实性。

None of the thallium ordinarily found in nature is radioactive. Like all elements, there are synthetic radioactive isotopes of thallium.
East Sun 发表于 2011-2-11 12:15 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

None of the thallium ordinarily found in nature is radioactive

又让人搞笑了！读不懂英文吧！！
为了不让你胡言乱语，甚至可以看一下我的医学学位！　你不是说你的学位更高，有本事可以亮出来吗！
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15866708/101_0595s.jpg

东方华 · 发表于 2011-2-12 09:37:49

本帖最后由 East Sun 于 2011-2-12 11:50 编辑

又让人搞笑了！读不懂英文吧！！
为了不让你胡言乱语，甚至可以看一下我的医学学位！　你不是说你的学位更高，有本事可以亮出来吗！
cgigate 发表于 2011-2-11 23:13 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

难道你只有断章取义的本事吗？

None of the thallium ordinarily found in nature is radioactive. Like all elements, there are synthetic radioactive isotopes of thallium.

你怎么能断了后段，取义前段呢?! 这就是你的学位？你的水平，你的专业？

我已经给你一个具体的例子，你能说铊不具有放射性吗？如果铊不具有放射性，Thallium Stress Test又如何做??!!

Thallium Stress Test ( basic knowledge for medical professionals)

This is a type of nuclear scanning test or myocardial perfusion imaging test. It shows how well blood flows to the heart muscle. It's usually done along with an exercise stress test on a treadmill or bicycle.

The thallium stress test is useful to determine:

Extent of a coronary artery blockage
Prognosis of patients who've suffered a heart attack
Effectiveness of cardiac procedures done to improve circulation in coronary arteries
Cause(s) of chest pain
Level of exercise that a patient can safely perform

When the patient reaches his or her maximum level of exercise, a small amount of a radioactive substance called thallium is injected into the bloodstream. Then the patient lies down on a special table under a camera ("gamma camera") that can see the thallium and make pictures. The thallium mixes with the blood in the bloodstream and heart's arteries and enters heart muscle cells. If a part of the heart muscle doesn't receive a normal blood supply, less than a normal amount of thallium will be in those heart muscle cells.

The first pictures are made shortly after the exercise test and show blood flow to the heart during exercise. The heart is "stressed" during the exercise test — thus the name "stress test." The patient then lies quietly for 2-3 hours and another series of pictures is made. These show blood flow to the heart muscle during rest.

What does the thallium stress test show?

If the test is normal during both exercise and rest, then blood flow through the coronary arteries is normal. The coronary arteries supply blood to the heart muscle.
If the test shows that perfusion (blood flow) is normal during rest but not during exercise (a perfusion defect), then the heart isn't getting enough blood when it must work harder than normal. This may be due to a blockage in one or more coronary arteries.
If the test is abnormal during both exercise and rest, there's limited blood flow to that part of the heart at all times.
If no thallium is seen in some part of the heart muscle, the cells in this part of the heart are dead from a prior heart attack. (They have become scar tissue.)

你亮亮你那所谓的学位有用吗！ 就凭你的那点水平，谁能相信你有能力拿到那学位？

你还是先回答一下，上述的对普通从医人员的问题吧。--如果铊不具有放射性，Thallium Stress Test又如何能做??!!

再者，你不是说你在美国开业吗？！请说说你的USMLE是哪年考的？考了多少分？都经过了哪几次考试？考试的现实情况如何？考点在哪？你的RESIDENCY AND CLINICAL FOLLOW TRAINING 了多长时间？又在哪几家医院？以及你的医学研究经历等等 .......

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