[转帖] 希拉里：普京的说辞希特勒上世纪就说过

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[转帖] 希拉里：普京的说辞希特勒上世纪就说过

drftgy 于 2014-3-6 13:51:40 发布在 凯迪社区> 猫眼看人

[size=1.35em]    希拉里：普京的说辞希特勒在上世纪30年代就说过      

  据媒体报道，此前一天，希拉里在参加长滩一个不公开的筹款午宴时称，如今普京的说词如果听来耳熟，那是因为希特勒在20世纪30年代就说过。

        

      资料图：前美国国务卿希拉里·克林顿。

          据外媒报道，前美国国务卿希拉里·克林顿5日试图澄清媒体此前有关她将普京比作“希特勒”的报道，称她并不是想做类比。但她仍然认为，作为一个“强硬而敏感”的领导人，普京浪费了俄罗斯的潜能。

      希拉里在美国加州大学洛杉矶分校发表讲话时称，她此前的讲话并非将普京比作希特勒，但俄罗斯现在的举动“令人回想”纳粹德国在20世纪30年代的举动，当时纳粹称他们需要保护波兰和欧洲其他地区的德国民族。希拉里称，她只是希望大家有一点历史视角，了解这种策略已经被使用过。

      希拉里表示，普京“浪费了俄罗斯的潜能，产生不稳定的威胁，并影响了欧洲的和平”。

      据媒体报道，此前一天，希拉里在参加长滩一个不公开的筹款午宴时称，如今普京的说辞如果听来耳熟，那是因为希特勒在20世纪30年代就说过。普京保护乌克兰克里米亚半岛的所有俄裔居民，令人想起希特勒在二战前为保护日耳曼人采取的行动。

      俄罗斯总统普京当地时间4日否认俄罗斯军队正在乌克兰克里米亚地区展开军事行动，强调在乌克兰动用武力是“最后手段”，但俄罗斯保留动武保护其公民的权力。

      美国总统奥巴马则承认，俄罗斯在乌克兰有其合法利益，但这不能给予普京进行军事干预的权力.

weinberger

Which page, which lines in the UN report said, "it's only the rebel forces that used chemical weapons against the civilians, Assad forces have never used chemical weapons?" These are all Global Research's own interpretation by cutting bits and pieces out of the UN report. Take a look at many other articles there, all filled with half truth, exaggeration and misinterpretations in order to serve their own left wing, anti-US political purposes.

你争论到最后就开始耍赖了。人家的报道是摘自UN报告的第几页，第几行。说的都是事实吧！尽管极左派专找有利于左派的段落，但那也是事实。是你要看的事实。当别人给了你了，你居然说别人是及左派，不算！至少不是中共，北韩，俄罗斯的报道吧！按你的逻辑，是不是我可以说“Assad use chemical weapon”是及右派的诬蔑呢？
aaazzz 发表于 2014-3-6 21:30

aaazzz

Global research is a ultra left-wing media. The article is an opinion and analysis by Global research, not the facts that are present in the UN report.
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 16:06 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

你争论到最后就开始耍赖了。人家的报道是摘自UN报告的第几页，第几行。说的都是事实吧！尽管极左派专找有利于左派的段落，但那也是事实。是你要看的事实。当别人给了你了，你居然说别人是及左派，不算！至少不是中共，北韩，俄罗斯的报道吧！按你的逻辑，是不是我可以说“Assad use chemical weapon”是及右派的诬蔑呢？

SUPERFAN

不是间谍的间谍才最危险。美国的教育制度造就了他们这样的人，泄露国家机密就快是美国人的传统了，但坏事有时候也是好事，国家安全局的保密制度会变的更严密。

There are a lot of 反共people in China and Russia, but none has done as much damages to their countries than what Snowden has done to the USA by leaking all its national secrets to its enemies.
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 17:35 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

weinberger

There are a lot of 反共people in China and Russia, but none has done as much damages to their countries than what Snowden has done to the USA by leaking all its national secrets to its enemies.

Edward 是不是叛徒在美国也有争议，更不要说其他国家。就算是叛徒，有了敢和美国作对的俄罗斯，他也有了一个归宿。中国和俄国的叛徒也一样。否则就象我一直说的，反共的可以去投靠美国；反美的就只有投靠上帝了。
SUPERFAN 发表于 2014-3-6 17:20

SUPERFAN

Edward 是不是叛徒在美国也有争议，更不要说其他国家。就算是叛徒，有了敢和美国作对的俄罗斯，他也有了一个归宿。中国和俄国的叛徒也一样。否则就象我一直说的，反共的可以去投靠美国；反美的就只有投靠上帝了。

This is your exaggerations. Nobody says 和美国有相同价值观的人是人，不同的就不是人. In fact, there are billions of people who have different values (like yourself) from the US living in the world, and living very well.
Edward Snowden is not a  和美国有不同价值观的人, he is a traitor who tells the world all the US national secrets he has ever known while working for the CIA. His information jeopardize US national security, compromise US defense networks against terrorists and put many Americans' lives at risk (including his CIA colleagues).
Tell me how Russia or China would react if a Russian or Chinese does the same thing to them?
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 16:16 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

孙参001

这应该是一种入侵吧。
国家太小，相对而言，容易被大国欺负。

weinberger

This is your exaggerations. Nobody says 和美国有相同价值观的人是人，不同的就不是人. In fact, there are billions of people who have different values (like yourself) from the US living in the world, and living very well.
Edward Snowden is not a  和美国有不同价值观的人, he is a traitor who tells the world all the US national secrets he has ever known while working for the CIA. His information jeopardize US national security, compromise US defense networks against terrorists and put many Americans' lives at risk (including his CIA colleagues).
Tell me how Russia or China would react if a Russian or Chinese does the same thing to them?

和美国有相同价值观的人是人，不同的就不是人，不配活在这个世界上么？这个世界上不是所有人都喜欢美国和他的政策，比如斯诺登，可以想象如果没有俄罗斯他们的下场会是什么？
SUPERFAN 发表于 2014-3-6 16:01

weinberger

Global research is a ultra left-wing media. The article is an opinion and analysis by Global research, not the facts that are present in the UN report.

Please see:
aaazzz 发表于 2014-3-6 15:48

SUPERFAN

和美国有相同价值观的人是人，不同的就不是人，不配活在这个世界上么？这个世界上不是所有人都喜欢美国和他的政策，比如斯诺登，可以想象如果没有俄罗斯他们的下场会是什么？

There are hundreds of countries that a lot weaker than the US (including its neighbors Canada, Mexico). But they never afraid of a US invasion which can be so easily done if it wants to. The countries that the US fought wars with are usually already in deep conflicts, ethnic cleansing, mass murder, or involved in terrorist attacks against the US, before the US intervention.
I don't think it will continue to be the case when Russia or China becomes a dominant country in the world.
As the old Chinese saying goes, there cannot be two tigers in one mountain. China can't even coexist with Japan peacefully in Asia, nor to say with US in the world. Same goes for Russia.
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 15:17 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

aaazzz

Is there an official report says only the rebels used chemical weapon, or Assad regime has never used chemical weapon? Yours is not an official report either, it was just an UN official overheard what a victim said.  
US reached a deal with Russia that those reports should only say whether chemical weapon was used, not who used it.(Another example of Obama's appeasement policy).   But clearly only Assad government possess the advanced technologies required to manufacture, deliver and store those weapons.
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 14:20 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

Please see:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/syr ... ment-forces/5363139

10 past 6

Everyone wants to live in the US, including top notch Russian and Chinese people. What are you folks trying to debate:smokin:?

weinberger

There are hundreds of countries that a lot weaker than the US (including its neighbors Canada, Mexico). But they never afraid of a US invasion which can be so easily done if it wants to. The countries that the US fought wars with are usually already in deep conflicts, ethnic cleansing, mass murder, or involved in terrorist attacks against the US, before the US intervention.
I don't think it will continue to be the case when Russia or China becomes a dominant country in the world.
As the old Chinese saying goes, there cannot be two tigers in one mountain. China can't even coexist with Japan peacefully in Asia, nor to say with US in the world. Same goes for Russia.

我觉得世界上只有一个大流氓是非常危险的，还是两个大流氓互相制约监督，达到某种平衡，才更安全，人也可以有不同的选择。一个国家被一个政党所控制是危险的，世界被一个国家控制更危险。
SUPERFAN 发表于 2014-3-6 15:06

SUPERFAN

我觉得世界上只有一个大流氓是非常危险的，还是两个大流氓互相制约监督，达到某种平衡，才更安全，人也可以有不同的选择。一个国家被一个政党所控制是危险的，世界被一个国家控制更危险。

We have been doing fine for the last 60 years when US is the cop in town and the western countries are the leader of the world.
We believe we will suffer miserably if Russia or China replaces US as the new cop in town and dominate the world.
That's why we support the US and EU to stop them. That's the only reason, period.
weinberger 发表于 2014-3-6 14:48 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

weinberger

We have been doing fine for the last 60 years when US is the cop in town and the western countries are the leader of the world.
We believe we will suffer miserably if Russia or China replaces US as the new cop in town and dominate the world.
That's why we support the US and EU to stop them. That's the only reason, period.

说起流氓，美国才是最流氓的国家，暗杀绑架投毒什么坏事没做过。中国人是50步笑一百步；美国人是一百步笑50步。

大家都是流氓，否则就别出来混。
SUPERFAN 发表于 2014-3-6 14:27