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发表于 2005-2-17 15:14:50 | 只看该作者

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不疯狂,是冷静的思考。  :199:
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发表于 2005-2-17 15:21:47 | 只看该作者
Is this world will become more and more interesting ???

Yesterday, legalized the marriage between man and woman
Today, legalized the marriage between man and man, and woman and woman;

Tomorrow, will prepare to legalize the marriage between man and women, and woman to men

The day after tomorrow, will legalize the marriage between human being and ???
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变态的取向,违反自然界的规律,必不被允许与承认,而且对儿童的成长有极大的危害,试想在同性家庭长大的孩子,该称呼这两个同性人为什么呢?这令儿童从一开始记事起就会有一个不正常的心理,继而会影响他正常、健康的成长,甚至影响其他一生的幸福!

我们应该告诉这些人:你们可以在角落里做这些令人唾弃的勾当,那是你的权利;是否承认你们的合法性,那是我们的权利!!!

不知道你为什么对同性恋有这么大的仇恨? 是否你被他们伤害过吗?
现代科学早就证明了同性恋是一种自然现象. 1993年,世界卫生组织把同性恋从公认的精神病名单中去掉。1998年,美国心理学会和美国精神病学会公开声明反对同性恋转变治疗。就连我们"伟大的, 正确的"共产党在2001年,《中国精神障碍分类与诊断标准》第三版将同性恋从精神疾病名单中剔除。如果你是无知而出狂言还可以理解的, 如果刻意顽固仇视同性恋那就是愚昧了!

性倾向都是天生的, 这对异性恋同性恋都一样. 说同性恋收养小孩会使小孩将来也成为同性恋, 原因是受了后天影响.  如果这种逻辑成立, 那么世上所有的人是异性恋生的, 并在这个异性恋主导的社会中长大成人的, 那么同性恋是那里来的呢? 难道有异性恋的父母刻意去教育子女成同性恋?, 听说过吗?

社会总是朝着文明, 有序, 健康的方向发展. 同性婚姻合法化也不例外. 同性婚姻已经在少数国家和地区合法化, 而却未来的趋势会有更多的国家和地区加入到这个阵营中. 大部分人反对它的合法化首先是有顾虑有对传统道德的冲击, 其次是婚姻的神圣性. 那我们来看看同性婚姻合法化会给异性婚姻带来什么?

首先我们来看看在一个同性恋受歧视,而却只有异性婚姻的国家. 比如说中国(大家最熟悉的), 中国有13-14亿人口, 专家报道人类的同性恋比例在4% - 6%. 我们就用最低数4%算, 中国就有大约5000多万同性恋者. 在当前中国的社会环境下, 绝大多数同性恋人士是不会向社会和家庭公开自己的性倾向, 而却迫于社会和家庭的压力会和一个不爱异性走向婚姻的殿堂. 这样就有另外的5000万异性恋近一亿中国人陷入这种有名无实的无奈婚姻. 一亿啊! 想想加拿大有多少人口? 无爱的婚姻是什么滋味, 尤其对这种婚姻中异性恋者来说. 他们/她们却是牺牲品. 看看现实的例子吧

老公是个同性恋者(上)

老公是个同性恋者(下)

我们再来看看在一个同性恋不受歧视, 异性婚姻和同性婚姻都合法的国家(比如在安省,同性婚姻已经合法了). 当人们对同性恋的了解和想对左撇子了解一样; 而不再用好奇, 异样的眼光看待; 从小就知道异性恋和异性结婚,同性恋和同性结婚, 就像萝卜青菜各人各爱. 同性恋者没有来自社会和家庭压力,他们就会在青春期知道自己的性倾向后会让周围的人知道, 自然也就不会找异性结婚做挡箭牌了. 异性恋者也不用担心会不小心找了个同性恋结婚.

看过前面的连接的文章, 作为异性恋你有没有想过, 如果你还没有结婚, 你可能会和一个同性恋的异性结婚? 如果你已婚, 你的配偶可能就是同性恋. 你可以离婚, 但你的生活可以回到过去再从新开始吗? 你的兄弟姐妹, 你的子女会不会成为下一个牺牲品呢? 现实中就有10%的家庭生活在这个悲剧中! 这样的婚姻道德吗? 神圣吗?
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发表于 2005-2-17 17:11:21 | 只看该作者

同性婚姻是人类最为荒唐的事!

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发表于 2005-5-29 23:21:39 | 只看该作者

Great article on gay/lesbian Issue

[转帖]每个在多元化的加拿大生活的中国人都应该读的一篇文章

FOR MINORITIES, TIMING IS EVERYTHING

Olive Johnson



Left-handedness and homosexuality both tend to run in families. As my husband's family and mine have some of each, it is not surprising that one of our children is left-handed and another homosexual. Both my left-handed daughter and my homosexual son turned out to be bright, funny, talented people with loving friends and family. But their experience of growing up in different minority groups was a striking contrast and an interesting illustration of how societal attitudes change as sufficient knowledge accumulates to make old beliefs untenable.

By the time my daughter was growing up, left-handedness was no longer regarded as a sign of immorality or mental deficiency. Almost very body knew "openly" left-handed friends, teachers and relatives and viewed them as normal people who wrote differently. Except for a little awkwardness in learning to write at school, my daughter's hand preference was simply never an issue. If people noticed it at all, they did so with a shrug. Nobody called her nasty names or banned school library books about left-handed families, as school trustees in Surrey, B.C., recently banned books about gay families. Nobody criticized her left-handed "lifestyle" or suggested that she might be an unfit role model for young children. Nobody claimed that she chose to be left-handed and should suffer the onsequences.

My gay son did not choose to be different either, but when he was growing up, homosexuality was still too misunderstood to be accepted as just another variant of human sexuality. Because gay people still felt unsafe revealing their sexual orientation, he was deprived of the opportunity of knowing openly gay teachers, friends and relatives. He grew up hearing crude jokes and nasty names for people like him, and he entered adulthood knowing that being openly gay could prevent you from getting a job or renting an apartment. It could also get you assaulted.

Bigotry has never been reserved for homosexuality. Of course, I am old enough to remember the time when bigotry directed toward other minorities in Canada was similar to that which is still sometimes aimed at homosexuals. In my Vancouver childhood, Chinese were regularly called "Chinks" (the boys in my high school wore black denim "Chink pants" tailored for them in Chinatown). Black people were "niggers," prohibited from staying in most Vancouver hotels. Kids in the special class were "retards" or "morons." Jews were suspected of all sorts of crazy things, and physically disabled people were often regarded as mental defectives.

Left-handed children were still being punished for writing with their left hand, particularly in the more religious parts of Canada. (When I was a graduate psychology student in Newfoundland doing research on handedness, I discovered that several of my "right-handed" subjects were actually left-handers; at school their left hands had been tied behind their backs by zealous nuns.)

The gay children and teachers of my childhood were simply invisible. Two female teachers could live together without raising eyebrows, chiefly because women in those days (especially women teachers) were not generally thought of as sexual persons. Two male "bachelors" living together did tend to be suspect, and so gay men brave enough to live together usually kept their living arrangements quiet. "Sissy" boys and "boyish" girls took a lot of teasing, but most people knew too little about homosexuality to draw any conclusions. These boys and girls were expected to grow up and marry people of the oppo­site sex. Some of them did, divorcing years later to live with one of their own. Many of the teachers and parents of my childhood who tried to convert left-handed children into right-handers probably believed they were helping children avoid the stigma of being left-handed, just as many misguided therapists tried to "cure" patients of their homosexuality to enable them to avoid the stigma of being gay in a heterosexual world.

Thanks to advances in our understanding, left-handedness gradually came to be seen as a natural and innate trait. We know now that people do not choose to be more skillful with one hand than the other; they simply are. While researchers are still debating the precise mechanisms that determine hand preference, there is general agreement that left- and right-handedness are just two different (and valid) ways of being. Left-handers are a minority in their own right, not "deviants" from normal right-handedness.

The same is true for sexual orientation. Although we do not yet clearly understand the mechanisms that determine sexual orientation, all indicators point to the conclusion that it results from interactions between genetic, hormonal and possibly other factors, all beyond the individual's control. Like left-handedness, sexual orientation is an innate trait, not a choice or "lifestyle”. Like left-handedness, homosexuality is a valid alternative sexuality, not a" deviance from "normal" heterosexuality.

As with other minorities, attitudes toward homosexuality are inevitably becoming more liberal, at least in Canada. A recent poll, commissioned by the B.C. Teachers' Federation, found that almost 70 per cent of B.C. residents think students should be taught in school to accept homosexuals and treat them as they would other people. (Twenty per cent said homosexuality should be discouraged, 9 per cent said they didn't know and 3 per cent refused to answer.) These results indicate that overt bigotry toward homo­ sexuality is increasingly limited to religious extremists. The Surrey school trustees who voted against having gay and lesbian resource materials in schools are probably at about the same stage of cultural evolution as were the Newfoundland nuns who tied children's left hands behind their backs 40 years ago.

Even so, I'm grateful that they're further along the path of enlightenment than their predecessors in medieval Europe, who burned many left-handers and homosexuals at the stake. Being born in the late 20th century was a wise move on the part of my son and daughter. In some things, timing is everything.
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发表于 2005-5-29 23:46:38 | 只看该作者

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3.你再好好读读CHARTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS吧,中国人可能长期被精神奴役惯了,对民主,平等和自由总是没有IDEA。。。华人作为一个MINORITY要想靠歧视另一个MINORITY(glbt)来讨好西人保守势力,会有什么好结果?

我对你这种什么都往中国人受“精神奴役“上扯的做法很反感,真的。

就算中国人受精神奴役,那么西方国家有几个承认同性婚姻合法化?像你说的:华人在加拿大不过是MINORITY,真正阻碍同性婚姻合法化的是华人吗,华人有这么大能量?
美国人没受过精神奴役,为什么他们不承认同性婚姻合法化?事实是不接受同性婚姻合法化目前在哪个国家都是多数的。

如果你自己发表种族歧视言论,就不能怪别人歧视你的性取向。
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发表于 2005-5-30 01:17:34 | 只看该作者

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变态的取向,违反自然界的规律,必不被允许与承认,而且对儿童的成长有极大的危害,试想在同性家庭长大的孩子,该称呼这两个同性人为什么呢?这令儿童从一开始记事起就会有一个不正常的心理,继而会影响他正常、健康的成长,甚至影响其他一生的幸福!

我们应该告诉这些人:你们可以在角落里做这些令人唾弃的勾当,那是你的权利;是否承认你们的合法性,那是我们的权利!!! [/QUOTE

Great comment quoted from a member.

This is a great comment on gay/lesben issues. You people need to get some basic knowledge about homosexuality before you start to attach the minority. Don't forget, Chinese ourselves are minority in this country too!

不知道你为什么对同性恋有这么大的仇恨? 是否你被他们伤害过吗?
现代科学早就证明了同性恋是一种自然现象. 1993年,世界卫生组织把同性恋从公认的精神病名单中去掉。1998年,美国心理学会和美国精神病学会公开声明反对同性恋转变治疗。就连我们"伟大的, 正确的"共产党在2001年,《中国精神障碍分类与诊断标准》第三版将同性恋从精神疾病名单中剔除。如果你是无知而出狂言还可以理解的, 如果刻意顽固仇视同性恋那就是愚昧了!

性倾向都是天生的, 这对异性恋同性恋都一样. 说同性恋收养小孩会使小孩将来也成为同性恋, 原因是受了后天影响. 如果这种逻辑成立, 那么世上所有的人是异性恋生的, 并在这个异性恋主导的社会中长大成人的, 那么同性恋是那里来的呢? 难道有异性恋的父母刻意去教育子女成同性恋?, 听说过吗?

社会总是朝着文明, 有序, 健康的方向发展. 同性婚姻合法化也不例外. 同性婚姻已经在少数国家和地区合法化, 而却未来的趋势会有更多的国家和地区加入到这个阵营中. 大部分人反对它的合法化首先是有顾虑有对传统道德的冲击, 其次是婚姻的神圣性. 那我们来看看同性婚姻合法化会给异性婚姻带来什么?

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