比起留学生的苦，新移民真不该抱怨！

普通人平常心

移民有移民的苦，留学生有留学生的苦。即便每一个人的经历、社会责任、年龄和境况都不一样，谁更苦，根本没有可比性。比如一个在英国可怜的湖南小留学生打工累死了，以及多伦多耿朝晖跳楼，摞下幼儿妻子，两个家庭的悲剧能定量比较吗？

移民和留学生本来都是中国人，为什么总是被人对立比较？何况，留学生也可变移民。再者，移民不是留学生批准的，留学生也不是移民批准的，都是加拿大政府部门审批的。如果在某些方面要抱怨，跟加拿大政府部门交涉好了。而移民和留学生互相抱怨比较没有任何意义，两个群体利益本来就不冲突。

我不太认同作者的观点，任何一个国家多照顾本国居民的利益和权利是在正常不过的事情。在上学期间，加拿大政府本来就是让留学生来学习的，不是来工作的。同样，即使在中国，公园门票对于中国人和老外也不一样。

我相信大部分移民和留学生相处很和谐，至少我周围是这样。许多小留学生很努力上进，作为平均年龄大一点的移民朋友应该多关心小留学生，而不能去指责他们。

在老外眼里，移民和留学生都是中国人。如果窝子里不团结，对于整个华人圈恐怕不是好事情。

TorontoBoatMan

justbehappy

顶!!!!!!!!!这篇文章写的太好了!!!!!!!!!! :smile:

西北老狼

Good Article!
I support you!

Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money.
They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money;
They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...;
They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money;
They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations.
They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government;
They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come;
They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee;
They look down students as garbage...
Any way, they are the best in the world.

What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!!

Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada?
How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from?
ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren)....
All of these, you can't get any thing free from China!

If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back!
You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you!
Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level!

Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing...
Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job.
Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?"

Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

TorontoBoatMan

我在餐馆送餐时认识一留学生，从东北来的。
第一天，他吹嘘家里有多富，宝马，石油生意，豪宅等等，大有来体验苦日子的架势；
第二天，他向我借信用卡开手提电话（被我拒）；
第三天，他向所有人广播我这人多小气；
第四天，老板请他走人，表面上的理由是他家太有钱，不用在餐馆打杂， 实际上所有员工都认为该留学生是骗子。

... 过一段时间，我看见他在一超市卖肉

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支持，好文章！

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最初由[TorontoBoatMan]发布
我在餐馆送餐时认识一留学生，从东北来的。
第一天，他吹嘘家里有多富，宝马，石油生意，豪宅等等，大有来体验苦日子的架势；
第二天，他向我借信用卡开手提电话（被我拒）；
第三天，他向所有人广播我这人多小气；
第四天，老板请他走人，表面上的理由是他家太有钱，不用在餐馆打杂， 实际上所有员工都认为该留学生是骗子。

... 过一段时间，我看见他在一超市卖肉

这几句话发在这里很无理头，为了证明留学生很差吗？

一九九五

寫得好﹗
就沒看見幾個能讓人欣賞的新移民﹐尤其男的移民。小留學生挺好﹐不過太不成熟
了﹐尤其男小留學生。看來只能嫁CBC了。


最初由[西北老狼]发布
Good Article!
I support you!

Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money.
They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money;
They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...;
They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money;
They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations.
They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government;
They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come;
They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee;
They look down students as garbage...
Any way, they are the best in the world.

What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!!

Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada?
How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from?
ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren)....
All of these, you can't get any thing free from China!

If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back!
You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you!
Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level!

Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing...
Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job.
Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?"

Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

大虫

眼看着您和”小草“掐了起来，才忙不迭翻看了”小草“和您的原文。说句老实话，的确感到您原来的帖很不”厚道“，如果有”怨妇“之说，您起码也能够上个”怨男“当当。
对同一件事情，每个人有每个人的看法，每个人有每个人的处理方法，这无可厚非。只要不违法，每个人都可以主张自己的权利，这好象也没什么。这怎么就让您气得暴跳如雷、火冒三丈，干嘛呀，您别累着，气大伤身啊。

TorontoBoatMan

There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing...

You're wrong my friend. There's big difference in these!
I get paid 30+ per hour to surf the WEB, to post on ca51
if I like,  what's my job ? network admin!

大虫

最初由[西北老狼]发布
Good Article!
I support you!

Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money.
They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money;
They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...;
They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money;
They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations.
They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government;
They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come;
They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee;
They look down students as garbage...
Any way, they are the best in the world.

What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!!

Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada?
How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from?
ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren)....
All of these, you can't get any thing free from China!

If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back!
You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you!
Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level!

Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing...
Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job.
Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?"

别老以为自己来加拿大的时间长，别老以为自己的英语如何的好，别老以为自己纳的税多过别人。加拿大就是这样一个国家，政策也就是这样。看看加拿大每年接受了多少难民，再看看这些接收来的难民都在做些什么，你就不难明白，中国人，不管他（她）目前怎么样，只要是合法来的并合法生存的，都还是不错的。另外，加拿大自己都在检讨自己的移民政策，把移民弄来了却没有很好地安置，你还逞什么能呢？在面向中国人自己的51中文网站，动不动就英语伺候，能说明点你什么呢？

Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

大虫

最初由[西北老狼]发布
Good Article!
I support you!

Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money.
They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money;
They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...;
They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money;
They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations.
They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government;
They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come;
They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee;
They look down students as garbage...
Any way, they are the best in the world.

What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!!

Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada?
How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from?
ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren)....
All of these, you can't get any thing free from China!

If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back!
You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you!
Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level!

Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing...
Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job.
Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?"

Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.



别老以为自己来加拿大的时间长，别老以为自己的英语如何的好，别老以为自己纳的税多过别人。加拿大就是这样一个国家，政策也就是这样。看看加拿大每年接受了多少难民，再看看这些接收来的难民都在做些什么，你就不难明白，中国人，不管他（她）目前怎么样，只要是合法来的并合法生存的，都还是不错的。另外，加拿大自己都在检讨自己的移民政策，把移民弄来了却没有很好地安置，你还逞什么能呢？在面向中国人自己的51中文网站，动不动就英语伺候，能说明点你什么呢？

文森特

楼上的哥们儿，发个贴你也能发错还得发2遍，哈哈，耻笑一下~~

dtoronto

但起的名字太大，有一杆横扫的问题。 一楼及后来几贴都在这点上忙活。 如果文章叫--比起某些留学生的苦，有些新移民真不该抱怨！ 会好些。
对楼主提倡的新移民要在提高英语下功夫，深有同感。
想想在国内也是一样，在北京上海，本地口音绝对有优先权。

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最初由[大虫]发布


那哥们儿除了说英语以外别的说的还有一定道理，的确有些人做了他说的那些事儿。