这个答案很明显:
如果是上帝创造了人,为啥他没有让所有的人都认识自己,承认自己?是因为他老人家有民主思想,谦虚谨慎?还是他老人家撒谎?
为啥不同的部落,不同的民族,甚至同一民族还有不同的信仰?有的信佛祖,有的信真主,有的信上帝。。。。。。这些信仰的对象是同一的吗?
所以很显然,是人为自己创造了他们自己的上帝,这位上帝能满足他们的精神需要。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 07:52 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个答案很明显:
如果是上帝创造了人,为啥他没有让所有的人都认识自己,承认自己?是因为他老人家有民主思想,谦虚谨慎?还是他老人家撒谎?
为啥不同的部落,不同的民族,甚至同一民族还有不同的信仰?有的信佛祖,有的信真主,有的信上帝。。。。。。这些信仰的对象是同一的吗?
所以很显然,是人为自己创造了他们自己的上帝,这位上帝能满足他们的精神需要。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 07:52 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
God created men but he has to give men free will to do the things they want to do.
Otherwise, all men are just like robots doing the exact things that God wants them to do, no individual thoughts, no personality, just programmed by God to do the same things. That's not what God wants, that's not what men want.
Once men are given free will, they of course do whatever they want to do, some come back to God, some refuse him.
But when things are way out of track, God sometime do intervene, like rebooting a computer when it is dead.
This world is not perfect, it has a lot of problems, but that's the way it's designed, like cars are designed to run on the highway but airplanes are designed to fly in the sky. Fortunately, this world is not all we are going to have.
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weinberger 发表于 2014-4-6 09:53 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
主日一大早就思考上帝的事情,看来你老快要入行了,信奉上帝往往是从质疑开始!
路不平 发表于 2014-4-6 08:31 http://bbs.51.ca/m/images/common/back.gif
上帝造人,人被撒旦欺骗吃了禁果,上帝吧人赶出伊甸园,人生叛逆之心。后来人多了,什么心都有,邪恶太多,以至于上帝发大水灭人,只保留诺亚一家和一些动物。再后来人又多了,邪恶之人又多起来,上帝又开始消灭一些地方的人类。再后来,上帝派他的儿子来为人类赎罪,但当耶稣来临时,世人并没有为他预备地方,只好放在马槽里。再后来耶稣i传教世人不听,把他钉在十字架上了。
看来世人中邪恶之人太多了,就是耶稣也无法拯救他们,看来只有消灭他们为好,而却是越快越好,越多越好。这样才能使好人得平安,使正义得到彰显。
蓝色星星 发表于 2014-4-6 10:42 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
好像还没有人来回答老酒的问题
其实很简单,先弄清一个概念:
上帝如果能被人手所造,那还是不是上帝??
如果是,你愿不愿意敬拜这样的上帝?
意义何在?
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纸纱窗 发表于 2014-4-6 18:54 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
上帝只是一个概念,一个神话,当然可以为人所造。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 22:02 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
上帝...当然可以为人所造,不是用手造,是用人的智慧在头脑中创造的。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 22:02 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
God created men but he has to give men free will to do the things they want to do.
Otherwise, all men are just like robots doing the exact things that God wants them to do, no individual thoughts, no personality, just programmed by God to do the same things. That's not what God wants, that's not what men want.
Once men are given free will, they of course do whatever they want to do, some come back to God, some refuse him.
But when things are way out of track, God sometime do intervene, like rebooting a computer when it is dead.
This world is not perfect, it has a lot of problems because it is run by the men, but that's the way it's designed, like cars are designed to run on the highway but airplanes are designed to fly in the sky. Fortunately, this world is not all we are going to have.
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weinberger 发表于 2014-4-6 09:53 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个答案很明显:
是人为自己创造了他们自己的上帝,这位上帝能满足他们的精神需要。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 07:52 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个论述似乎可以自圆其说。
那麽上帝为啥不惩罚那些不相信他老人家自己,而是相信真主的回教徒,那些相信佛的东方人,那些相信李洪志的法轮功信众?对于这些不相信上帝的异教徒,上帝不就一点用处,一点威力都没有了吗?难道上帝也欺软怕硬吗?
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 22:13 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个问题我不知道,不知道的事情我一般不乱说
我讨厌狐假虎威的神棍,但也不相信人定胜天
无忧了 发表于 2014-4-6 09:00 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这算是一个答案,谢谢
但是,老酒啊,谁告诉你说,上帝是概念、是神话呢? 出处在哪里?
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纸纱窗 发表于 2014-4-6 22:08 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个论述似乎可以自圆其说。
那麽上帝为啥不惩罚那些不相信他老人家自己,而是相信真主的回教徒,那些相信佛的东方人,那些相信李洪志的法轮功信众?对于这些不相信上帝的异教徒,上帝不就一点用处,一点威力都没有了吗?难道上帝也欺软怕硬吗?
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 22:13 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
谁见过上帝?没人见过对吧?
上帝只是写在书里,只是在信徒中讨论,被牧师所描述,所以只是一个概念,一个神话,一个传说。
所以说上帝是人类的智慧所造,只存在于人们的头脑中。
酒中仙 发表于 2014-4-6 22:33 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
God created men but he has to give men free will to do the things they want to do.
Otherwise, all men are just like robots doing the exact things that God wants them to do, no individual thoughts, no personality, just programmed by God to do the same things. That's not what God wants, that's not what men want.
Once men are given free will, they of course do whatever they want to do, some come back to God, some refuse him.
But when things are way out of track, God sometime do intervene, like rebooting a computer when it is dead.
This world is not perfect, it has a lot of problems because it is run by the men, but that's the way it's designed, like cars are designed to run on the highway but airplanes are designed to fly in the sky. Fortunately, this world is not all we are going to have.
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weinberger 发表于 2014-4-6 09:53 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
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