哈珀的减税是否使加国正面临金融危机？

倒哈联盟

Mulroney 历年的赤字

88-89： 287 亿
89-90： 289 亿
90-91： 320 亿
91-92： 343 亿
92-93： 410 亿

Mulroney 84年上台， 连任两届， 联邦欠债由2079亿猛增至4661亿， 欠债增长125%。

84-93联邦欠债

84-85： 2079 亿
85-86： 2425 亿
86-87： 2733 亿
87-88： 3011 亿
88-89： 3298 亿
89-90： 3588 亿
90-91： 3908 亿
91-92： 4251 亿
92-93： 4661 亿

倒哈联盟

1993年联邦自由党上台， 继承的是保守党430亿的财政赤字：

When Chretien took office in 1993, he inherited a $43-billion deficit left by the Conservative government of Brian Mulroney. By the time he retired in 2003, the deficit had been eliminated and the federal government was awash in huge annual surpluses.

2003年， 安省自由党上台， 上台后查帐才发现继承的是保守党55亿的财政赤字：

In the 2003 election that brought him to power, McGuinty promised to balance the budget every year.

The Liberals backed off that commitment when a report revealed that they had inherited a $5.5 billion deficit from the previous Conservative government.

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你要说明什么呢？ GST是Mulroney发明的和“排除万难”实施的， 难到你要怪自由党上台为什么没废除吗？ 有点本末倒置哦！


The Canadian Goods and Services Tax (GST) (French: Taxe sur les produits et services, TPS) is a multi-level value-added tax introduced in Canada on January 1, 1991, by Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and finance minister Michael Wilson.

In 1989, the Progressive Conservative government of Prime Minister Brian Mulroney proposed the creation of a national sales tax of 9%. At this time, every province in Canada except Alberta already had its own provincial sales tax imposed at the retail level.

The Liberal-dominated Senate refused to pass the tax into law. In an unprecedented move to break the deadlock, Mulroney used a little-known constitutional provision to increase the number of senators by eight temporarily, thus giving the Progressive Conservatives a majority in the upper chamber. In response, the Opposition launched a filibuster and further delayed the legislation.







Liberal Governments and the GST

小心谨慎

Reducing the GST’s Rate of Taxation

The GST again became an important political issue in the 2006 federal election. The Conservative Party, led by Stephen Harper, promised to reduce taxes by lowering the GST from seven to six percent. The incumbent Liberals, in contrast, supported keeping the GST at seven percent, and lowering income taxes instead. Following the election, the new Conservative government included the GST cut in its first budget; the reduction came into effect in July 2006.

The reduction of the GST has received both support and criticism. On the one hand, consumers benefit from the lower GST, as the cost of purchasing goods and services has decreased, albeit by a small amount. Consumers, therefore, should be able to purchase more with their money. Some critics, however, have regarded the tax cut unfavourably, arguing that it makes little real difference to the average Canadian. They also suggest that, if the Conservative government is serious about lower Canadian tax burdens, the focus should be on reducing personal income taxes and not sales taxes. Others have suggested that the reduction in GST is an unfair tax cut, as it benefits higher-income individuals and families more than lower-income ones. Their basic premise is that actual savings depends on how much one spends to begin with; accordingly, those that spend more on goods and services will save more money, in absolute terms, than those that spend less.

小心谨慎

上一次联邦和安省保守党当政， 留下的都是赤字， 发明了GST还是填不平赤字， 事实已经说明了问题了， 可笑还有人拿保守的经济来担纲， 无知！无知！


Liberal Governments and the GST

As part of its pre-election campaign in 1993, the Liberal Party of Canada released its Red Book — a document that spelled out what a Liberal government would do once elected. One of the Party’s key pledges was to replace the GST “with a system that generates equivalent revenues, is fairer to consumers and to small business, and promotes federal-provincial fiscal cooperation and harmonization.” In that election, the Liberals won a majority government, electing 177 members to the House of Commons on October 25th.

Once in office, however, the Liberal government failed to deliver on its election promise. Part of the issue was the federal government’s difficult financial position, with its high annual deficits and accumulating debt load. Moreover, the GST had become an important source of government revenues, totaling in the tens of billions annually. The Liberal government decided to keep the GST, a decision that posed some political difficulties. Liberal Member of Parliament John Nunziata voted against his government’s first budget in protest and was later expelled from the Liberal caucus for doing so. Liberal MP Sheila Copps, then Deputy Minister and Minister of the Environment, had vowed to give up her seat if the Liberals did not eliminate the GST. In 1996, she honoured her pledge and resigned from Parliament, only to be re-elected in a subsequent by-election for her riding.

胡硕士

真的要减税? 俺肯定要投保守党!

hhxxttxs

上一次联邦和安省保守党当政， 留下的都是赤字， 发明了GST还是填不平赤字， 事实已经说明了问题了， 可笑还有人拿保守的经济来担纲， 无知！无知！

up!

hhxxttxs

HARPER还的是国债, 是历届政府财政赤字累计起来的, 当然NDP在里面起过很重要的作用   这债务当然不可能一下子还清, 光每年的利息就很可观, 占了联邦年度预算的一部分, HARPER以前的自由党政府就开始还, 这你也能从我找的数据里看的出来. 但HARPER和前政府不同的是他减了2%的GST, 至于信托基金, 俺就觉得保守党政府作的对, 至于你个人的损失, 和你历年的收益比起来, 应该没什么了

至于DION的CARBON TAX, 他根本没办法制约油商将成本转嫁给用户, 难道只涨柴油不涨汽油   燃料的涨价是社会性的, 尤其是在北美这种生活在轮子上的社会, 革命小将们不要骂, 此轮子非彼轮子

至于你的言论, 让俺感觉跟你的爱国情操很相配---"社会主义就是好, 就是好; HARPER就是抢了俺钱, 就是坏, 就是坏"

不要混淆概念！
自由党政府是有财政盈余的，他们的财政盈余是在偿还国债之后的；而哈巴政府的财政是赤字，所以他必须从老百姓身上收刮才能填补他的经济窟窿。
至于碳税，你怎么现在不再说什么“一上路就缴税了”？  
油商转嫁消费者是一回事，收碳税减income税是另一回事。就算他们转嫁成功，咱们还有省下的所得税可以抵消。
再说，你能肯定油商就能成功地转嫁？哈巴在台上倒真有可能（油商就是他的经济后台），迪安是以环保专家，他不会轻易让油商转嫁损失的，因为那会破坏他的环保政策，还会增强保守党的势力。
没错，在俺看来，HARPER就是抢了俺们的钱, 就是坏！   

倒哈联盟

上一次联邦和安省保守党当政， 留下的都是赤字， 发明了GST还是填不平赤字， 事实已经说明了问题了， 可笑还有人拿保守的经济来担纲， 无知！无知！

y_2008

自由党和NDP由于是非执政党，可以信口开河作承若。
不过一些人愿意不愿意，这次HARPER一定还是执政。当然能成majority government可能没有希望。 这样也好，有反对党制衡。
至于拿加拿大和中国的关系来说事，本身就是笑话。加拿大人是在选加拿大的总理，不是选GCD住加拿大的支部书记。加拿大人历来就有同情弱者的传统，而且有正义感。如果加拿大老百姓知道中国国内的一些欺压弱势群体的现象， 早就要谴责了。
不知道大家注意没有，反对党在主流媒体上一般不敢拿中加关系来主攻。这是聪明之举。所以他们只有在华人社会来忽悠。反正本地人也看不懂中文报纸。


哈巴对中国不好，所以我要先哈巴。道理很简单：对中国不好，那就是对中国无权无势的百姓好。这道理只有奴才不承认。

姜枫B

顶这个贴子，搞笑也可以有益于健康
就象有些人说的食品有毒并不可怕，可怕地是你们不愿意再吃毒了

真诚对待

自由党和NDP由于是非执政党，可以信口开河作承若。
不过一些人愿意不愿意，这次HARPER一定还是执政。当然能成majority government可能没有希望。 这样也好，有反对党制衡。
至于拿加拿大和中国的关系来说事，本身就是笑话。加拿大人是在选加拿大的总理，不是选GCD住加拿大的支部书记。加拿大人历来就有同情弱者的传统，而且有正义感。如果加拿大老百姓知道中国国内的一些欺压弱势群体的现象， 早就要谴责了。
不知道大家注意没有，反对党在主流媒体上一般不敢拿中加关系来主攻。这是聪明之举。所以他们只有在华人社会来忽悠。反正本地人也看不懂中文报纸。

小心谨慎

俺无知，你有知？
你明知哈巴欠了一屁股债，拿信托基金还的钱，却装作不知道。
你明知自由党的碳税征收计划不包括汽油，主要是针对保守党的经济后台油商，却故意歪曲成老百姓开车上路就要交碳税。
这就是你所谓的有知吗？            

你那些文章我看了，能说明什么？
说明了不是哈巴欠的债吗？没有，还是哈巴欠的，并且没有任何可以解释得通的欠债的理由。
说明了哈巴上台加拿大经济好转了吗？也没有，相反的变糟了。

  
这句话写成When 小心谨慎's lips move, I know he's probably lying其实同样有效。


HARPER还的是国债, 是历届政府财政赤字累计起来的, 当然NDP在里面起过很重要的作用   这债务当然不可能一下子还清, 光每年的利息就很可观, 占了联邦年度预算的一部分, HARPER以前的自由党政府就开始还, 这你也能从我找的数据里看的出来. 但HARPER和前政府不同的是他减了2%的GST, 至于信托基金, 俺就觉得保守党政府作的对, 至于你个人的损失, 和你历年的收益比起来, 应该没什么了

至于DION的CARBON TAX, 他根本没办法制约油商将成本转嫁给用户, 难道只涨柴油不涨汽油   燃料的涨价是社会性的, 尤其是在北美这种生活在轮子上的社会, 革命小将们不要骂, 此轮子非彼轮子

至于你的言论, 让俺感觉跟你的爱国情操很相配---"社会主义就是好, 就是好; HARPER就是抢了俺钱, 就是坏, 就是坏"

hhxxttxs

When a politician's lips move, I know he's probably lying.   
这句话写成When 小心谨慎's lips move, I know he's probably lying其实同样有效。