就我个人来讲，我也觉得关于这个案子的中文报道有很多不明确的地方。出于对整件事情的关心，我最近到Owen Sound当地报纸The Sun Times(http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/webapp/sitepages/)的网站上寻找相关信息，结果发现，从案发到案子基本了结，这家报纸至少有六篇或短或长的相关报道。尽管这些报道远远不能揭示真相，但是至少可以让我们看到更多的细节，也有助于我们更加了解事情本身。由于版权的限制，我不能全文转载相关的报道，只能将要点给大家介绍一下，大家有兴趣的话可以自己到该网站上查找更多的细节。
"当初他们杀犹太人,我没有作声,因为我不是犹太人; 后来他们杀天主教徒,我仍然保持沉默,因为我不是天主教徒; 最后,当他们开始对付我时,已经没有人为我讲话了… "作者: DKnight 时间: 2007-5-2 12:50
xpxpxpx p, Your work will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, man.
Yes, you made the point. If the 3 guys were stabbed by Fu, fu was not THAT innocent. If they were wounded by Zhou, why they didn't speak the truth in revenge?
there's probably something we still don't know.作者: Sunnyday52 时间: 2007-5-2 13:32
There are a lot of unfair in this country, especially to new immigrants.作者: xpxpxpx p 时间: 2007-5-2 16:57
已经联系了安省的法院，法院的人表示庭审的记录（Court Transcript）是向公众开放的。但是获得这些资料需要时间和一些费用。我已经将付案的一些信息传了过去，他们会查询过往的相关记录，然后给我一个估价的，希望不要太贵。
Criminal hearings are public hearings. Everyone has the right to attend a public hearing, so the record of the process will become available to the public.
Court script is 开庭记录, including the court dictation taken by the court clerk and the draft notes taken by the judge. The script is very much like the minutes for a business meeting, documenting what has been discussed and the order made by the judge.
The script will not include disclosure, police statement, pictures, weapons, coroner's report and other evidence. These are submissions and once submitted will become evidence. The process of the submission will be documented in the script.
In this case, the charge was dropped before a trial, so there should be only limited submissions of "evidence".
The script should provide very valuable information the argument why the charge was droped.
I suspect the old couple should have access to the court document. They have hired and fired 5 lawyers. I could imagine they brought the court doc to the lawyers, but once they were told there's no case, they kept shopping around. They are in their denial mode.
All indictable criminal cases must be prosecuted by the Crown Attorney. If family members are not satisfied with the Crown's decision of dropping the case, they will file a judicial review with a higher court if they trust:
1. the Crown has made a serious mistake in procedures,
2. the Crown has ignored critical information/evidence,
3. there isnew and significant evidence to change the decision,
4. there is public interest involved.
The old couple do not have an appeal. According to the newspaper 2 years ago, they have filed a complaint, probably about a serious mistake in procedures. I don't understand why after 2 years the complaint has not been resolved.
A Crown Attorney does not drop a case at his or her free will. The Crown must run it by the Chief Crown and discussed it with police. The judge must have endorsed the decision. We are talking about a group decision.
Very few talked about the defendant. He could be a victim. Imagine Fu was under the influence of alcohol and initiated the fight with the defendant who had to defend himself for his safety. He then was charged with second degree murder and detained for a few months. Where is the justice for him?作者: 海盗船船长 时间: 2007-5-5 10:13 标题: 回复：回复：热心肠说得非常好，很专业 最初由[Sedona]发布 回复：热心肠说得非常好，很专业
xp, thanks again for all the hard work.
Criminal hearings are public hearings. Everyone has the right to attend a public hearing, so the record of the process will become available to the public.
Court script is 开庭记录, including the court dictation taken by the court clerk and the draft notes taken by the judge. The script is very much like the minutes for a business meeting, documenting what has been discussed and the order made by the judge.
The script will not include disclosure, police statement, pictures, weapons, coroner's report and other evidence. These are submissions and once submitted will become evidence. The process of the submission will be documented in the script.
In this case, the charge was dropped before a trial, so there should be only limited submissions of "evidence".
The script should provide very valuable information the argument why the charge was droped.
I suspect the old couple should have access to the court document. They have hired and fired 5 lawyers. I could imagine they brought the court doc to the lawyers, but once they were told there's no case, they kept shopping around. They are in their denial mode.
All indictable criminal cases must be prosecuted by the Crown Attorney. If family members are not satisfied with the Crown's decision of dropping the case, they will file a judicial review with a higher court if they trust:
1. the Crown has made a serious mistake in procedures,
2. the Crown has ignored critical information/evidence,
3. there isnew and significant evidence to change the decision,
4. there is public interest involved.
The old couple do not have an appeal. According to the newspaper 2 years ago, they have filed a complaint, probably about a serious mistake in procedures. I don't understand why after 2 years the complaint has not been resolved.
A Crown Attorney does not drop a case at his or her free will. The Crown must run it by the Chief Crown and discussed it with police. The judge must have endorsed the decision. We are talking about a group decision.
Very few talked about the defendant. He could be a victim. Imagine Fu was under the influence of alcohol and initiated the fight with the defendant who had to defend himself for his safety. He then was charged with second degree murder and detained for a few months. Where is the justice for him?
Very good explanation of the trial process and logical reasoning of the hot discussion on this website. This post reflects the typical acculturation of Chinese immigrants to the local society. Accurate words and expressions result in the delicate lucidity of the author's thoughts. Rationality and intelligence lead to a wonderful demonstration of logic and emotions.
What a fantastic post! 作者: canadafreeword 时间: 2007-5-5 10:21 标题: 感谢XP........... 希望早一点有进一步的消息.作者: 熱心腸 时间: 2007-5-5 11:45
真抱歉現在才上線看到xp網友所提的問題 sedona內容有蠻多說明的應該可以讓大家多了解一下刑事案件的處理
再次谢过了。作者: ffgg123 时间: 2007-5-5 16:14
那么付家事你还管不管？老头，老太还等待你去给他们伸冤，报仇，捐款的事都在等待你的结果，本来好心的赵老板准备给予他们$5000，现在在你的帮助下可能$500 也没有了，$4500是你来捐款还是赵老板？作者: xpxpxpx p 时间: 2007-5-6 09:40
Just found a PDF file from a law firm that outlines the Criminal Procedure in both US and Canada. Please see the link below.
According to the introduction, the booklet above provides a overview and comparison of the criminal court systems and criminal procedures of the United States and Canada, focusing on the State of Michigan and the Province of Ontario in particular.作者: hack 时间: 2007-5-6 19:37 标题: 回复：这个提问很重要. 最初由[mbig.ca]发布 这个提问很重要.
