入籍华裔回国签证困惑中国血统遭歧视？

宇宙洪荒 · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:22:20

回此假洋鬼子.
你别不懂装懂好不好?既然申请者是加拿大公民,其身份是应该由加拿大来证明,而不是由曾经持有的什么其他国家的资料来证明.加拿大护照是加拿大政府颁发给其公民用于向外国政府证明其公民身份的文件,你想否认这点吗?
加拿大护照不能证明华裔加拿大人的身份,却能证明非华裔加拿大人的身份,这不是很滑稽吗?这不是歧视有是什么?
asana 发表于 2011-3-24 10:33 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

GOOD POINT 1!

gzwind · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:23:07

国有国法,家有家规,很正常,没什么可抱怨的.
美林发表于 2011-3-24 11:45

我有意见，不能用手投票，那只好用脚投票了。

海边看云 · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:23:44

中共是绝对不可能搞双重国籍的。我只是希望中共能学学美国，允许我们这些良民用$100办个十年签证。

zggg · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:27:33

我也是找不到旧护照，回不去了。

zggg · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:31:38

我是留下了旧的中国护照，只是搬家找不到了，我留下旧护照的原因是，能看到自己年轻时的照片样子。

arashi · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:35:03

最看不惯有些人入了加籍就自以为高人一等，对待中领馆的人就像指挥下属一样，稍有不如意就指责对方不礼貌，也不想想如果对方是加拿大政府的人，你敢如此放肆吗？前几天去办签证，前面有一对母女没有拿中国护照，在她们排队的时候就有人提醒她们这样办不了，可是她们还是执意要排队。终于到她们了，果然不行，就耍赖说没有过中国护照（那个女儿是12岁移民过来的），让里面收材料的工作人员又好气又好笑，没有中国护照难道当初是偷渡来的（不过也没准儿就是），于是拒绝了她们的申请，结果那个母女就大喊大叫非说工作人员骂了她们，真不讲理！还有一个人居然说当初换护照的时候中领馆没有把旧护照关给他，简直让人无语。
平心而论，办理中国签证真是太简单了，填个表照个照片就批了，哪想加拿大签证，把祖宗八代，亲戚九族都查个遍还不一定批，怎么不见有人抱怨啊？
还有，有人抱怨中领馆区别对待大陆出生和非大陆出生的加籍人，不错，对大陆出生的加籍人，一次入境可以停留最多60天，而非大陆出生的加籍人最多可以停留30天，这种对华裔有利的“歧视”怎么不见有人提啊？？！！

ding33 · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:37:43

我也是找不到旧护照，回不去了。
zggg 发表于 2011-3-24 12:27 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

也未必. 我问过领事馆,据说你这种情况可以把国内以前的户口本拿来. 当然如果是举家移民,可能连户口本也取消了. 领事馆说也可以用以前和你父母一起的户口本.

bee2 · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:53:47

本帖最后由 bee2 于 2011-3-24 13:04 编辑

中共这么做想干嘛？估计唯一的目的，就是要监控在海外的每一个华人。搞一群间谍混到商业的各个领域，然后就可以随时监控到每个华人的各种信息。只要知道你的名字，你的所有信息估计都能搞到，背后说不定还有一个庞大的海外华人数据库呢。操。核对一下你的护照，就是看你有没有改名字。有这精力干点什么不好？搞这些有意思吗？

loneshepherd · 发表于 2011-3-24 11:57:49

If true, this definitely discrimination.
Can someone from Consulate General confirm?

loneshepherd · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:01:21

First of all, I am writing this on my own behalf, not the Chinese government. I respond this email because I don't quite agree with writer and most of the responses. The posting made some complaints about the way Chinese consulate handling visa applications by new Chinese Canadians. I don't see anything improper about it. However, I think the writer misunderstood and misinterpreted the requirements for showing your Canadian passport(s) and old Chinese passport(s).

1) All contries require people to show sufficient idendifications to prove who you are. You CANNOT prove who you are yourself. You have to prove who you are by someone or sone organization. When this requirement comes from the Chinese government, you started to complain. Did you complain that when you apply Canadian PR card, or passport you have to ask a doctor, or a layer or PE to sign your documents?
2) You said it that people do not have to show the old passport(s). You can use other documents to prove who you are. As long as you can prove who you are, you are ok. As how you can prove who you are, there are some ways to do so, but you have to do it.

I would say the way the Chinese consulate does things can improve. But I would also like to say we Chinese should also be more understanding with the Chinese regulations. To my first point above, I have an example to share with people. My university class is now in the US. It took him more than 8 years to get the US PR status. The reason is that his name is the same with another person. His application documents were mixed up with that person. He had to prove he was not that person himself by get proper documents from China and where he worked/studied in the US.
LHSH 发表于 2011-3-24 08:54 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

BS. Your current passport is your ID, not your old passport issued by Chinese Government.

loneshepherd · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:04:31

回复 1号

You can fart however you want. I said the first sentence because I was afraid that people might think I was on behalf of someone since I would agree more with the regulations than the points made by the writer.

When talking about Chinese officials are not as kind/polite to Chinese than to other nationals. I agree with this. Let me ask what about the ordinary Chinese people. I saw too many show politeness to other nationals, but not to Chinese people in Chinese prociery stores. Do I like it, I tell you NOT. I hope you are not one of those. I hate that Chinese people take on Chinese people. Then complain Chinese people are not good to Chinese people. We should first respect ourselves, then expect other people respect us. For the original posting, if the writer launch a pentition to ask the Chinese officials make it more convenient for Chinese people to the passports/visa, I will be first one to sign. I believe you will do too.
LHSH 发表于 2011-3-24 10:10 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

Stink!

loneshepherd · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:08:21

最新趋势是有不少小留学生也在想办法加入加拿大国籍的同时保留中国国籍。新规定就是冲着这些人去的。
笑民发表于 2011-3-24 10:34 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

What's the percentage, 1%? 2%? Then why discriminate 98% Chinese Canadians?

loneshepherd · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:11:16

国有国法,家有家规,很正常,没什么可抱怨的.
美林发表于 2011-3-24 11:45 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

Only slaves keep silent facing bad rules. People protest bad/discrminative rules

QRBOP · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:31:50

是长了一个chinese face，中国人去中国比我们老外难。
whxh99 发表于 2011-3-24 10:22

" 中国人去中国比老外难"
这句经典.

香港已经回归祖国10多年了,大陆同胞去香港,还要办港澳通行证,只能呆7天.
加拿大护照免签,可呆90天.
问:这香港还是中国的吗?
答:是中国的, 就是中国人不能随便去,外国人可以随便去.

公司税 · 发表于 2011-3-24 12:42:21

没办法，只是因为中国血统的(某些）人太聪明了。

我看这政策不是歧视，是对某些中国血统的人的聪明的一种肯定和赞扬。这些聪明的中国血统人士对此是心知肚明的。

一些不太聪明老实作人的中国血统的人，也被稀里糊涂地赞扬和肯定了，不知原委，云山雾罩地说自己被歧视了。

唉，国家大了，就是难！

入籍华裔回国签证困惑 中国血统遭歧视？