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(本网特稿)医生的诊断是杨秀平最多还有几个月的时间了。如今杨秀平最大的心愿就是见自己唯一的儿子,谭港已经向国会议员求助,目前正在朋友的帮助下申请儿子来多伦多探亲,只盼能让老婆见儿子最后一面。 ... [ 查看全文 ]

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哎.......真是可怜,老婆要过来,又知道老婆有病,为什么没有买保险,买了保险就好多了,听说加拿大出的一种
CELLTON海洋单细胞海藻对癌症很有效,不少癌症病人吃了都转危为安了,不防老韩试试,我也明白这篇文章不是为老婆治病发表的,是想为儿子来加拿大见母亲发表的,能否过来大家说了不算,只有签证处有这个权利。表示同情!
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大家别吵了,老谭有他的错误,可是我们都是中国人,为什么别的族衣都这么团结,我们就不可以吗?大家不要骂我,饶人之处且饶人。


下面是 runyingw 的英文意见,我用软件翻译给大家看看,有翻译不正确的地方,基本意思大家应该看懂的。

runyingw
There are lot of people that benefit from the Canada's welfare system. not only him. But this family is indeed to need the help now. We should not blame him for what ever reason that he can become a refugee. we should blame the Canadian refugee system.
If we can not help this family, I wish everyone should stop talking something to make them feel worse. We all Chinese and we all should know as a new immigration in Canada, how hard the living that we have encountered.
Bless them and wish them to get the help that they needed.
有许多人受益于加拿大的福利体系不仅他。而这家确实需要帮助了。我们不应该怪他任何理由认为他能成为我们该责备refugee.加拿大难民系统。
  
  如果我们不能帮助这个家族的成员,我希望每个人都应该停止说话的事情让他们感觉更糟糕。我们全体中国人民和我们都应该知道作为一个新移民在加拿大,多大的生活,我们已遇到。
  
  给他们祝福,希望他们能够完成的帮助,他们所需要的了。

Yes. We should blame the system. Especailly the welfare system.
According to my experenice, most people who collect welfare are Local Canadian who have criminal record and go to jail in and out all the time, who take drugs and like to make other trouble too, who are too lazy to go to work and like to cheat money for a living.............. They are 100 times worse and I can tell you hundred and thousand true stories i went thorugh and I was in last 12 years. They are LOCAL people who were born here and grown up here but they cellect welfare in all their life. They sit at home , play club music, fight with people, steal from people, call police all the time, find excuse and sue people all the time, take drugs with your money, TAX-PAYER 'S MONEY. govenment system stand ththeir side and protect them . They have A LOT OF rights because they have a lot of free time to enjoy their their rights, they were born here and they kn ow their system so they take advantage from the the system.
Compared with those welfare peoole , most refugee people are much better  because most of refugee are from outside Canada and they don't know too much about this system and they hardly take advantage from this system. They might collect some money from government but they hardly make trouble for others. Some of them still go to work bacause they have hardworking backgound from other country. They don't even know English and they don't try to ceate trouble . They do eveyntihng for simple living only. We are all taxpayer  and we all want government money properly tosupport people who really need help for food . I don't think anybody here wants govenment to use your tax money to buy other poeple  drugs , car, pets, huge  free lagel fee for their own trouble.................

  是的。我们应该责备一个系统。比如福利制度。
  根据我的experenice,大多数人收集当地的加拿大人的福利有犯罪记录,去监狱内和出所有的时候,谁吸毒,想把其他麻烦过,太懒惰了去上班,并且想要骗钱为生..............他们是100倍糟糕,我可以告诉你千名的真实故事我去thorugh,我在最后12年。他们都是本地的出生在这里长大,但是他们cellect福利在他们一生中。他们坐在家里,玩俱乐部音乐、抗人,他们偷人,叫警察,找借口,苏人,服用药物与你的钱,信息系统的S。政府身旁,站ththeir保护他们。他们有很多的权利,因为他们有很多空闲的时间去享受他们的自己的权利,他们是在这里出生的,他们拥有系统上的他们利用了他们从系统。
  相比,福利,大多数人对难民人多,因为大多数的难民是外地人加拿大和他们不知道太多关于这个体系并且利用他们几乎从这个系统。他们可能收一些钱从政府但他们很难制造麻烦,也为别人着想。他们中的一些人仍然去上班,因为他们从其他国家welcome勤劳。他们甚至不知道英语和他们不试着”创新麻烦。他们eveyntihng生命只有简单。我们都是纳税义务人,我们都希望政府资金哪些支持适当的真正需要帮助的食物。我不认为这里的任何人想要用你的政府税收的钱去买其他的人药物、汽车、宠物,巨大的自由lagel费用为自己的麻烦.................

Everybody knows lawyers and doctors are richest in Canada because medical fee or  legal fee is very very high.
If people get sick and they really need taxpayers money to pay medicall fee, we should totally understand no matter how they arrived here and for what reasons. God bless us.
The realty I have kept seeing in last 12 years is a lot of local welfare people who were born here and grown up here with very goog English but they don't go to work and they create trouble and sue people with huge free legal aids, call 911 or police for something minor, buy marawwjna, pay high insurance for cars, buy cigarete, buy pets, ................
Who is one ending  up paying this?? ? you, me and all the taxpayers, most of working classes.
According to my experience , i hardly see Chinese or other Asian to collect welfare , even some do , they don't waste. we are all hardworking people. we all are here for living not for trouble or wasting.
每个人都知道律师和医生在加拿大最富有的医疗费用或法律费用因为是非常高。
  如果人们生病,他们真正需要medicall纳税人的钱来支付费用,我们应该完全理解不管他们怎么到这里,是什么原因。上帝会保佑我们的。
  物业我遵守了看到过去的12年里已经有很多的地方福利出生在这里长大很好英语,但他们不去工作,而引起麻烦和苏人带着巨大的免费法律艾滋病、打911及警察一些细微的,买marawwjna,付高保险。请抽烟,买汽车,买................宠物,
  结束人支付这笔? ?吗?你,我,所有的纳税人,工人阶级的大部分。
  根据我的经验,我几乎看不到中文或其他亚洲收集福利,甚至有些人,他们不waste.我们都是勤劳的人交往很有一套。我们都在这里为生活不麻烦或消瘦。

I wish I could type Chinese here. But I am sorry I don't have the system. It is sad that Chinese treat Chinese bad or Chinese fight with Chinese.
We all went through a lot of hardship in China and here when we were new immgrant though we settled down very well here now.
The whole systemset up and protect their local Canadain though we are Canadian too now. The whole system suuport and protect hundreds and thousadns locals. We Chinese only occasionally need the system and only a few people use the system.
We are hundreds time better than those real  local welfare people who live in jail in winter , cellect welfare in summer . They keep doing this in ALL THEIR LIFE.
They look younger taller and stronger than us. WHY do they collect welfare?????
Why not government set up heavy duty factory to force them to go work ?
Waht a shame everything made in China or India while using taxpayers money to support those locals?!!!
Most of use are propfessional with good degrees and we are intelligent and hardworking but government still keep chasing us for lisense at the same time they don't accept our degree.
Where is our rights?  They have already treated us like garbage because we don't know English. We really need help because of our English but we hard look for their help until the last minute before. The woman is such a serious situation and I believe she really needs help.
If somebody is hero and good and then he or she should stand on  right side and protect the sickness people and weakness people.
Never throw stone in people who have been in well !!!!!!!!
We should united together to help our poor community.
我希望我能打中文在这里。但是很遗憾我没有系统。可悲的是,中国对中国坏人或多数战斗和汉语。
  我们都经历了许多困苦的时候,中国和这里新immgrant虽然我们定居在这里表现非常不错了。
  整个systemset和保护他们的地方Canadain虽然我们是加拿大太了。整个系统的、有suuport和保护thousadns本地人。我们中国人只有偶尔需要系统和只有少数人使用的系统。
  我们有很多时间比那些真正的地方福利生活在监狱在冬天的时候,cellect福利在夏天。他们坚持这样做在他们一生中。
  他们看起来更年轻得更高、更壮要比我们大得多。为什么他们收集福利? ? ? ? ?
  为什么不政府开设重型工厂强迫他们去工作吗?
  像可惜在中国或印度都在使用纳税人的钱来支持那些当地人吗? ! ! !
  大部分propfessional使用与高学历和我们聪慧,勤恳但政府仍然接着追逐我们lisense同时他们不接受我方的学位。
  哪里是我们的权利吗?他们已经把我们是垃圾,因为我们不懂英语。我们真的需要帮助,因为我们的英语,但我们努力寻找他们的帮助到最后一分钟前。女人就是这么严峻的形势,我相信她真的需要帮助。
  如果有人是一个英雄和良好的,然后他或她应该站在右手边和保护这种病的人。和弱点
  从来不扔石头的人已经好了! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
  我们应该团结在一起帮助我们可怜的社区。
Cancer is CANCER. nobody can protend to have cancer. but I see  many many local people protend  to have mental problems and collect disable money in all their lives.
Only God knows who really need help. Not the government who sit in the office drinking a couple of coffee and reading  some newspapers and then judging something with their own will.
Police carse even show up for husbands and wives samll arguments, smoebody steals others' apple banana etc. , court even handles somebody sued others for soemthing  minor. ,  doctors even give very young very healthy poeple medical check very year.....................  Spend spend spend  , waste waste, waste ,  when govenment run out off money,   RAISE the TAX. !!!!!! $50,000 for a cancer patient , it is just completely nothing.  It is neccesary not a waste compare with those. Go to hospital  , go to court , Check the jail , go to government office, go to the shelter , go to the family doctor, you will find hundreds times more than $50,000 which is a peanuts for a cancer patient when other healthy people need to spend more tax money.
 癌症是CANCER.没人能protend有CANCER.但我看到许多当地居民protend有心理问题,收集禁用集中于他们的生活。
  只有神知道谁真正需要帮助的人。不是政府在办公室里坐着喝个一两咖啡和阅读一些报纸,然后判断某样东西,他们的欲望。
  警察carse甚至出现在丈夫和妻子小参数,smoebody偷别人的苹果香蕉等,法院甚至有人控告他人处理他守护着小。,医生也不给很年轻非常健康的人.....................体检非常一年花花花、垃圾废物,浪费,当政府将会失去的钱跑,提高税。! ! ! ! ! !5万元给癌症病人,它是完全没有。这是neccesary比较并不是在浪费。去医院,去法庭,检查监狱,去政府机关、去住所,去看家庭医生,你会发现数百倍超过5万美元,这是一个花生来获得癌症病人当其他健康的人需要花更多的税款。
Even if his son comes and stays in Canada. Nothing is wrong with that. We will have one more young hardworking Chinese here who will work and make a contribution for Canada and himself. I don't think he will sit at home collecting welfare  making trouble like some local welfare people who have been doing in all their lives.
I suggest everybody go outside checking and comparing with others and you will find out how good Chinese working class are.
I was dating local white people in last 12 years. I have been dealing with all kinds of people from all over the world including welfare peole ..............
I have been so proud I have Chinese professional backgorund though I am a Canadian.
Of course I love beautiful Canada but the whole system needs to be changed or imporved to encourage to work hard to make the country richer instaed of encouraging  people to fight with their human rights or take advantage from the system.
 即使他的儿子带却呆在加拿大。没有什么是不可以的。我们还会有一次年轻勤劳的中国人在这里作出一定的贡献会成功,加拿大和他自己。我不认为他会坐在家里收集福利带来麻烦的人喜欢一些地方福利一直做在所有他们的生活。
  我建议每个人都到外面去检查和与国内外同行比较,你会发现中国工人阶级是多么的好。
  我在约会的地方白人在过去的12年。我已经处理各种各样的来自世界各地的人们..............包括公积金人
  我很骄傲我有中文专业backgorund虽然我是加拿大人。
  我当然爱美丽的加拿大,整个系统需要改变或imporved鼓励努力工作以使国家更丰富的instaed鼓励人们去迎接他们的人权或利用从系统。
Action speaks louder than words. Fighting can only waste tax money to make lawyers rich . So it will end up the rich get richer , the poor get poorer.  Hardworking can make the country more beautiful and make the working class rich or at least catch up rich people.
行动胜于空谈。战斗只能浪费税款将中国律师丰富。所以它的结局都会富者愈富,穷得差。勤奋可以使国家更美丽的经验,更使工人阶级富有或至少赶上富有的人们。

right . i agree with you.
对的。我同意你的看法。

if we don't have money , at least we don't have to say anything to make the patient and her family upset. What kind people they bring over to Canada , it is the Canadain consulate general 's job.  According to my knowledge, a lot of Chinese came over here as refugee from FUJIAN province. They work very hard as construction worker fro a llitte wage though they don't have degree like us. They are much better than the local welfare people who sitting at home making trouble only. I don't see anything wrong. We need a lot of factory workers and other labours to bring the labour fee down so that we can produce more products here instead of keeping importing stuff from China or India.
如果我们没有钱,至少我们不需要说什么,使病人和她的家人很心烦。他们带来什么样的人在加拿大了,这是Canadain总领事馆的那份工作。据我所知,很多中国人的难民身份来到这里从福建省。他们工作非常努力,建筑工人来参加llitte工资虽然他们没有学位和我们一样的。他们比那些地方福利的人只坐在家捣乱。我没看到什么错了。我们需要很多的工厂工人和其他所劳碌得来的,将劳动费用下来以让我们可以生产更多的产品在这里进口而不是把中国和印度的物品。





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板凳
发表于 2011-1-29 20:37:13 | 显示全部楼层
    很多事情都是政府条例里的漏洞所产生的,政府应该去堵这些漏洞,加拿大的福利就是这样,有很多空子让那些好逸恶劳的人钻,不光是中国人,西人也是这样的,他们拿的都是纳税人的钱,是政府乱用纳税人的钱。只是不要走邪路,去欺骗政府跟大家的同情心,被欺骗的感觉很难受的,很多人都是有同情心去捐款,最后家属乱用大家的捐款,(有例子:大家捐了7万多加币家属2年多久用光了,中间家属还享受难民金。)所以会有这么多不中听的话语,大家说的是真话,不过还是多些同情心,至于他儿子可不可以签证是使馆跟移民局的事情,大家不要相互责怪。
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发表于 2011-1-29 20:47:22 | 显示全部楼层

天津老谭:只盼能让老婆见儿子最后一面

本帖最后由 shadows 于 2011-1-30 17:29 编辑

        发表这篇文章人真是别有用心,没有说实话,要想大家帮助老谭起码应该讲真话,这样大家才可以帮忙,老谭来加拿大这么多年就没有工作?只靠难民金生活吗?其实写这篇文章的人也够卑鄙的,用老谭来欺骗大家的感情,只说可怜一面,挑起大家在这相互指责,欺骗人的人最鄙!!!!
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发表于 2011-2-2 16:01:17 | 显示全部楼层

天津老谭:只盼能让老婆见儿子最后一面

估计老谭没有电脑或不会上网,希望有人可以把这个偏方转给老谭。
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发表于 2011-2-2 22:53:45 | 显示全部楼层
真希望老谭能看到185楼提供的偏方,或者有朋友可以转给他。
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发表于 2011-2-5 20:17:57 | 显示全部楼层
moise 分析的有道理,下岗工人的确很多,生活的确不容易,可是还是有不少下岗工人自找生活出路,又从新富强起来了,一个人无论你在哪里都要去努力工作,要付出才有回报,你付出的多回报也多,坐在家里,躺在床上,等天上掉钱?是不可能的,无忧发表的有关老谭的两篇文章目的很明显,作为老谭因为申请“难民”已经达到了目的,再申请家庭团聚时因为儿子的年龄超过申请资格被拒,目前“妈妈生病要见儿子最后一面”正好是唯一理由(也许老谭不够资格担保儿子过来探亲,因为老谭享受政府救济金),一旦儿子过来再想别的方法留在加拿大,留在加拿大不是不可以,谁的父母不希望自己的孩子在身边,可是留下来以后做什么?去读书?学费呢?捐款?去打工?什么工?英语过关吗?去洗碗?80,90后的孩子都是独生子女,自理能力都很差,别说吃苦了,多数都是父母给他们铺路。身为父亲的老谭来加拿大做了些什么?因为高血压,腰痛,就不去工作,靠领政府救济金生活,可想而知他的儿子能做什么?老谭一个“难民”申请毁了自己,回不了中国,见不到养育自己的亲人,毁了老婆,接下来再毁掉孩子的前程?
      老谭的年龄应该50左右,这个年龄正是好时候,自己振作起来,努力去工作,重的做不了找些轻一点的还是可以的,每年按时纳税,还是可以申请孩子来探亲的。无忧文章发表对老谭也许会起到反效果。加拿大不是没有例子,因母亲去世女儿拒签,转年女儿申请来拜祭母亲,还是拒签,这么多年还是进不来加拿大。老谭别抱太大的希望,希望越大失望越高。


                 以上我讲的都是心里话。
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发表于 2011-2-5 20:25:30 | 显示全部楼层
加拿大的难民制度有问题??难民制度服务于真正的难民,是那些假难民钻了政府的空子,漏洞是堵不完的。
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