What do I do if debris from my neighbour's tree has fallen on my property? Who is responsible?
The owner of the property where the tree branches/limbs fall is responsible for bringing the debris to the curb for City crews to remove it or contacting a private contractor for removal if the debris is larger than 15 cm (6 inches indiameter).If there is damage to the property, please contact your insurance company.
Theowner是指树园的主人?还是指垂枝/断枝所在园子的主人?
非常感谢!
俺觉得是你家,才叫OWNER !
现在是树枝,要是别的东西,你的落别人家了,譬如心爱的小动物,你的女朋友等等,你愿意不叫OWNER 吗?!
我们是害虫 发表于 2014-1-13 21:40 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
俺觉得是树园的主人 ,才叫OWNER !
现在是树枝,要是别的东西,落在邻居家了,譬如心爱的小动物,女朋友等等,你愿意不叫OWNER 吗?!
我们是害虫 发表于 2014-1-13 21:40 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
回复 jingheng
您的意思是谁的院子,谁负责,无论那树枝是谁家树上掉下来的
要是自己的树枝不是很多,自己直接清理了,算是锻炼了身体还做了好事
要是树枝狠多,建议楼主打个电话给相关部门直接问问的好
我们是害虫 发表于 2014-1-13 23:48 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
回复 jingheng
俺讲的都是普通情况, 您给的例子基本都是极端的,不是一个讨论范围
我们是害虫 发表于 2014-1-14 00:22 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
回复 jingheng
俺讲的都是普通情况, 您给的例子基本都是极端的,不是一个讨论范围
我们是害虫 发表于 2014-1-14 00:22 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
普通情况就是“各扫自家门前雪”。下了雪你要负责清理,不能说那雪是老天爷的不是你家的与你无关。否则有人在你家门前滑倒受伤可能你就要吃官司。最少是可能要受到市政府的罚款单。树枝等也一样。不要小看那些树枝,可能也会绊倒人,特别是到处是冰雪的季节和天气。
jingheng 发表于 2014-1-14 00:30 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
you are responsible for cleaning up the debris within your property, whether it's from your own trees, or the trees of others - of course including your next door neighbors'. even your neighbors were willing to clean it up, he/she should consult you and have your permission before doing so. if the debris caused your loss and it were from a healthy tree, that means the tree-falling is caused by completely irresistable force, you could only deal with your insurance company and claim your loss. otherwise, especially if you had ever advised your neighbor to take care of the dead/potentially harmful trees, you would have had option to legally seek responsibility of your neighbor for your loss. either way, it's your responsibility to immediately clean up everything within your property, not your neighbor's.
jingheng 发表于 2014-1-13 23:41 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
事情还在进展。我把市府网站的这个解答email了他。他今早的回答如下:
市府网站的解答:What do I do if debris from myneighbour's tree has fallen on my property? Who is responsible?
The owner of the property where the treebranches/limbs fall is responsible for bringing the debris to the curb for Citycrews to remove it or contacting a private contractor for removal if the debrisis larger than 15 cm (6 inches in diameter).If there is damage to the property,please contact your insurance company.
邻居的Property Manager今早的回复:
Thatinformation is from the city. The branches from your tree are larger than6" in diameter and they are still attached to the tree. I am not going toargue with you any longer. If the hazardous broken branches are not removed byMonday my instructions are to have the work done and commence legal action tocollect the costs.
再请教:我园子树上的半断枝仍然悬挂在邻居园子的上空,尚未落下,这是谁负责?
还有一个问题:私家后院的树到底是谁的财产?房主的?还是政府或国家的?谁应该为这树负责?房主对树的砍伐是有种种限制的,好像不能说树是房主的财产。
感谢!
即便是你家小猫、小狗,甚至你的女友走失到邻家,如果他/她不知归你家所有,他有权自行处置。如果你确信自家小猫小狗走失邻家,意欲领回之前必须知会邻家并征得许可方可进入邻家。如果你擅自进入邻家,可能被控私闯私人物业,在有些地方可能还有性命之虞。当然如果你确信有足够理由说服邻家允许你领回属于自己的物品而对方执意拒绝,唯一选择是诉诸法律。
jingheng 发表于 2014-1-14 00:08 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
这个真复杂。不过还是赶紧把树枝弄下来,免得造成更大损失。
dalu2020 发表于 2014-1-14 10:25 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
法律很清晰,树在你土地上,你是owner,你负责清理整顿,你要进入别人土地当然要邻居同意,她可以清理以后向你收费。
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5号 发表于 2014-1-14 12:44 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
What do I do if debris from my neighbour's tree has fallen on my property? Who is responsible?
The owner of the property where the tree branches/limbs fall is responsible for bringing the debris to the curb for City crews to remove it or contacting a private contractor for removal if the debris is larger than 15 cm (6 inches indiameter).If there is damage to the property, please contact your insurance company.
From:
Theowner是指树园的主人?还是指垂枝/断枝所在园子的主人?
非常感谢!
墨子 发表于 2014-1-13 21:34 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
同问:如果是龙卷风把临街的车库刮来了呢?
从来就没救世主 发表于 2014-1-14 22:25 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
回复 墨子
好奇问一句,政府对你家的那个树枝怎么说法?
老虎667 发表于 2014-1-14 22:52 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
事情还在进展。我把市府网站的这个解答email了他。他今早的回答如下:市府网站的解答:What do I do if debris from myneighbour's tree has fallen on my property? Who is responsible?The owner of the property where the treebranches/limbs fall is responsible for bringing the debris to the curb for Citycrews to remove it or contacting a private contractor for removal if the debrisis larger than 15 cm (6 inches in diameter).If there is damage to the property,please contact your insurance company.From:
邻居的Property Manager今早的回复:Thatinformation is from the city. The branches from your tree are larger than6" in diameter and they are still attached to the tree. I am not going toargue with you any longer. If the hazardous broken branches are not removed byMonday my instructions are to have the work done and commence legal action tocollect the costs.
再请教:我园子树上的半断枝仍然悬挂在邻居园子的上空,尚未落下,这是谁负责?
还有一个问题:私家后院的树到底是谁的财产?房主的?还是政府或国家的?谁应该为这树负责?房主对树的砍伐是有种种限制的,好像不能说树是房主的财产。感谢!
墨子 发表于 2014-1-14 10:21 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
看来是我该处理。怎么处理?还有很多细节。我正在deal with。这个case,学了很多。多谢各位!
墨子 发表于 2014-1-14 13:20 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
Rope Chain Saw
http://www.youtube.com/v/z6uLlqVUGy0
HOW TO TRIM TALL TREE LIMBS WITHOUT CLIMBING THE TREE
http://www.youtube.com/v/g99suBCgqBc
How to Prune (Not Kill) Trees and Shrubs
http://www.youtube.com/v/W9ZjIkBwTCw
using ladders for tree work - potential dangers
http://www.youtube.com/v/oxst-7MmUfM
Tree Trimming Safety
http://www.youtube.com/v/17z7Rjyz9zI
Tree trimming for electric power line safety
http://www.youtube.com/v/E5zYdJ8JyXw
估计你已经采取了行动,但还是把我的认识写出来供你参考。
骑兵连连长 发表于 2014-1-15 09:57 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
好!
回复 和者盖寡A
墨子 发表于 2014-1-15 11:58 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
你园子树上的半断枝如果从断处彻底断开,会自由降落到你的园内,还是邻居的园内?这与树的位置,院篱笆的位置,以及断枝的重心都有关系。我曾见过专业工人的作业,为安全起见,他们要事先准备好,控制残枝的降落方向和落点。他们通常要用两根绳子用力拉住残枝,(比如说,向自己一方拉)然后再锯断残枝,确保残枝降落到希望的地方。这需要几个人的合作。这也与你方的安全作业空间和落地空间与邻居方的安全保障距离有关。断枝离地面越高,越难预计,越需要专业人员处理。
你可能需要在处理费用和安全度上作出选择。
和者盖寡A 发表于 2014-1-15 12:18 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif
断树枝的处理结局:
那邻居的Property Manager虽很强悍,(几天前,我请的一个师傅被他挡在园外,因为各种执照、保险证件没带够)但那也是他的工作,可以理解。再说,大道理上,他在理上。
我昨天直接找了邻居,一个犹太先生。他有几处房产,大多在出租。他深知中国租客的nice、及中国装修师傅们服务的很好的性价比,(和他们相比,当然)。
他昨天给我电话说,允许师傅进他园子处理树枝。(口说无文字,是个漏洞。不想拖了,就这么地了。)
今天,师傅把他的园子弄好了。我还没看到最后结果,到现在。我不在那里住。
我下午有事,半途把费用付给了师傅,叫师傅要善始善终,别收了钱就不管了。师傅说“没问题”。
晚上回家打开电脑,见那邻居发了一封信来:Many thanks for speedy removal of the fallen treeat my property.
我也回了一句话:Thank you for your “thanks”! Let us be friendlyneighbors!
这事大致就这样了。
一直比较关注犹太人、犹太民族,我做了一个栏目,就叫“探究犹太人”,里面收了20篇文章。
学了很多。51很有用,很有人气,很平民、很实在。每天来逛好几趟。
感谢各位网友的出谋划策!非常感谢!
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