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我们关心的是老唐这样使华社蒙羞的家伙能不能受到应得惩罚

 
楼主
发表于 2010-11-13 16:03:52 | 显示全部楼层
第156楼的,谢谢你对我的担心。不过我还是有办法滴。
楼上酒中仙又开始那网上编造的东西开始糊弄人了。我说过,网上的所谓证据,大多是胡编的,反正不承担法律责任。这些人造谣多了,我基本不看他们的这些所谓内幕。
torontohankou 发表于 2010-11-13 14:48 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif


torontokankou, 你太搞笑了。既然你强调所谓证据,那你有证据证明网上的东西都是编造的呢?既然你没有,你凭什么能说网上的东西是编造的呢?
老唐如果真的清白,没有屎夹杂裤裆里,臭气怎么可能冒出来?

你既然和老唐没关系,他值得你24小时挂在网上和所谓“倒唐”派打架?你到底是谁?你真有这闲时间,干点别的不好吗?
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沙发
发表于 2010-11-13 16:19:25 | 显示全部楼层
知道唐养了多少人吗?
知道唐投资多少网站吗?
知道唐养了多少写手吗?
很多文章是唐的写手写的,很多博客是唐培养的网管做的。。。。
唐用的全是客户的血汗钱。
你应该看出来的,这里支持唐的几个人大多是马甲,主要人物是torontohankou
torontohankou这个人没有自己的见解,只要唐放屁他全说对,正常吗?
所以唐可耻,他圈养的狗也可耻!
黑吃黑 发表于 2010-11-13 16:07 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

不正常。
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板凳
发表于 2010-11-13 17:27:57 | 显示全部楼层
那篇《帝国最后的岁月》写得太好了。。。。那些污七八糟的事可能只是冰山一角。
美国这边有超过7,80是个投资(受骗)者,是通过WIN-WIN CAPITAL, WIN-WIN CAPITAL是唐的海外华人FUND不u的GENERAL PARTNER。MANAGER是JAY YU(那位副统帅),和其老公GUXX和另一位XXX。参与投资的大多数是美国德州达拉斯高科技的工程师,来自如德州仪器,IBM和其他大企业等,也有部分生意人。除了四五个把本钱拿回来了外,其余的人基本上一份钱没有拿回来,最少的也有10万美元吧,多的亏了30/50万,甚至百万之多。
正如《帝国最后岁月》所说,事发后,美国军团大部分人不敢相信钱没了,不是每天的报表都是盈利的吗?这钱怎么就没了呢?部分人利用受害人急于挽回损失的心情,最开始开会,谈心想把事情压下去,叫大家不要去告发。后来又搞了一个支持唐继续炒盘的签名。经过最初一段时间的混乱后,部分清醒的投资人开始认识到了唐其实根本不是什么巴非特,而是打者巴非特旗号融资骗钱。他也没有长期稳定的盈利能力,他所有的光环都是为了一个目的:圈钱。

唐炜臻为了圈钱也到过DALLAS做现场操盘演示。当时做了三天,一天亏损两天盈利(注:唐在2009年在TORONTO的高调现场炒盘演示实际上是因为资金链将断,唐的孤注一掷。可惜,报表上天天盈利的唐在演示中好像连亏好几天,这成为唐帝国崩盘的导火线,而远在美国客户对帝国将垮还一无所知,可叹。)。这也就罢了。当时有人提问,唐不是一年的报表每天都盈利吗?怎么现在三天就亏了一天?唐笑而不答,有人来打圆场,唐先生这是旅途劳累了。有人问唐,你说你只动用总资金的1%做交易,那另外99%的钱放在那里了?唐面不改色的说:那个99%是100%安全,我放在TRESURY BOND里了。99%是备用资金,绝对不会动。那时正是2007年,唐正有1两千万的亏损窟窿待填。正如事发后有人再次质问唐这99%资金的去处,唐说,那钱在客户中流动。这糊涂账查不清楚,唐现在又说,钱在我心中。 这如佛说:酒肉穿肠过,佛主心中留“一样牛逼呀。
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地板
发表于 2010-11-14 22:26:18 | 显示全部楼层
倒唐挺唐两派今天激烈争吵,挺唐派明显占上风
(加拿大新闻商业网 09年10月25日)10月22日,22名唐炜臻的投资客户联名上书安省证监会,要求证监会恢复唐炜臻的交易资格,现在这份名单已经增加到超过50人,今天上午(周日),又有近30名唐炜臻的客户在授权书上签了字,表示尽管唐炜臻面临指控,还是希望唐炜臻能够为其交易,并愿意承担因此带来的所有风险。唐炜臻对于更多的客户相信其操盘赚钱能力表示高兴,并称他的代表律师都觉得惊讶,“1名面临包括诈骗等多项指控的投资人能够得到这么多客户信任,不能不说是个奇迹。”

今天会议的结果令唐炜臻感到高兴,但是过程并不平坦,在向律师发问的时候,不同意见的客户发生相当激烈的争吵,甚至用粗话问候对方长辈
唐炜臻 发表于 2010-11-14 19:04 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

你发这个有用吗?
表示客户都支持你?
他们哪是支持你呀,他们是走投无路,司马当着活马医,他们只想拿回自己
的钱,他们杀你的心都有。
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发表于 2010-11-15 18:40:00 | 显示全部楼层
看到经天纬地拜访唐炜臻先生的帖受到启发,今天上午专程拜访唐先生。
在2个半小时里,唐先生用模拟账户做外汇挣了大约1.5%的利润。
做投资的人都知道,投资的高手都是大赚小亏。今天看到的事实,说明了唐先生的平均水平。
torontohankou 发表于 2010-11-15 18:29 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif


唐炜臻的苦主就是这么上的当。老唐,你还要忽悠,换个高明的手段好不好,老用一招不灵的
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发表于 2010-11-15 20:34:10 | 显示全部楼层
Hey, respect does not come with age!!! Old fools are a dime a dozen!
You sure do not show any wisdom with your age , unlike the ones that I respect.
You are side stepping the question... you have spoken up for Tang's innocence , 黑吃黑 is just putting it on the line. You duck it!!!  

If you are 'half buried' as you claim, I hope it is not your upper half!!
fishhawk 发表于 2010-11-15 19:44 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif


汉口根本就不是FISHHAWK的对手。嘿嘿
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发表于 2010-11-15 21:41:27 | 显示全部楼层
美国SEC对唐及其相关的指控。。。这是公开的文件
Case 3:09-cv-00614-B
u.s. DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
原件很容易查到。。。

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
vs.
OVERSEA CHINESE FUND LIMITED
PARTNERSHIP, WEIZHEN TANG &
ASSOCIATES, INC., WEIZHEN TANG CORP.,
WINWIN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC,
WINWIN CAPITAL LIMITED PARTNERSHIP,
J.O.R. & ASSOCIATES, LLC, AND
WEIZHEN TANG,
Defendants,
and
WINWIN CAPITAL PARTNERS, LP,
BLUEJAY INVESTMENT LLC d/b/a VINTAGE
INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT LLC,
Relief Defendants.


COMPLAINT
8-09CV0614- B
The Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission"), Plaintiff, files this Complaint
against Defendants Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership, Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc., Weizhen Tang Corp., WinWin Capital Management, LLC, WinWin Capital Limited
Partnership, J.O.R. & Associates, LLC, and Weizhen Tang, and Relief Defendants WinWin Capital Partners, LP, and Bluejay Investment, LLC, d/b/a Vintage International Investment, LLC, and would respectfully show the Court as follows:
?
SUMMARY
?
1. This emergency matter involves an on-going Ponzi scheme and affinity fraud
targeting members of the Chinese-American community. Weizhen Tang, the self-described
"Chinese Warren Buffet" recently admitted to investors that since at least 2006 his Torontobased hedge fund, Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership (the "Hedge Fund"), operated as a Ponzi scheme. In February 2009, Tang told investors that he and the Hedge Fund posted false profits on investors' account statements for the purpose of concealing substantial trading losses, and, more insidiously, to attract new investors to his fund. Tang further admitted that he used funds from new investors to return principal and payout purported profits to other investors.
Tang admitted to investors that the Hedge Fund paid out at least $8 million in purported profits in 2006, 2007, and 2008 - despite significant trading losses incurred during that time. Since at least as early as 2004, more than 200 investors have collectively invested between $50 and $75 million in the Hedge Fund.

2. Tang specifically targeted members of the Chinese-American community and
solicited U.S. investors to directly and indirectly invest in the Hedge Fund. Several U.S.
investors directly invested in the Hedge Fund. Since at least November 2007, Tang raised capital
for the Hedge Fund from U.S. investors by offering and selling limited partnership interests in
WinWin Capital Limited Partnership ("WinWin Partners"), a Texas-based limited partnership he
controls. WinWin Partners' sole business is investing partnership capital in the Hedge Fund. As of March 10, 2009, WinWin Partners had raised almost $17.3 million in principal investments from approximately 75 investors, most of which are located in the Dallas area, but also include investors in California. These investors have withdrawn approximately $8.4 million from the Hedge Fund, ofwhich at least $700,000 was paid out as purported profits. Nearly $9.6 million in investor principal remains unaccounted for. Consistent with his recent confession to investors, funds invested with WinWin Partners were used to pay other investors in a Ponzi fashion.

3. In an effort to prey on the panic generated by his admissions of wrongdoing, Tang
has sent e-mails to investors to persuade them to trust him with even more of their money and allow him to continue trading on their behalf. Within the last two weeks, Tang has informed investors that he is actively raising an additional $1 million to "recoup" investor losses and creating new business entities, bank accounts, and brokerage accounts to circumvent action by the Commission and/or the Ontario Securities Commission.

4. The Commission, in the interest of protecting investors from any further illegal
activity, brings this action against the Defendants and Relief Defendants, seeking as applicable permanent in junctive relief, disgorgement of all illicit profits and benefits Defendants or Relief Defendants have received plus accrued prejudgment interest, civil monetary penalties, the appointment of a receiver over assets traceable to investor funds and other emergency and equitable relief.

5. This Court has jurisdiction over this action pursuant to § 22(a) of the Securities
Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), § 27 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange
Act") and § 214 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 ("Advisers Act"). Defendants, directly and indirectly, made use of the mails and of the means and instrumentalities of interstate
commerce in connection with the acts, practices and courses of business described in this Complaint. Venue is proper because certain of the transactions, acts, practices and courses of
business described below occurred within the jurisdiction of the Northern District of Texas.

6. Weizhen Tang, age 50, of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, is the manager of Oversea
Chinese Fund Limited Partnership, a Toronto-based hedge fund, whose general partner is Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc. Tang is also the owner and co-CEO of Weizhen Tang Corp.,
the owner ofJ.O.R & Associates, LLC, and the owner ofWinWin Capital Management, LLC.

7. Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership (the "Hedge Fund") is a limited
partnership organized in December 2001 under the laws ofthe province of Ontario.
8. Weizhen Tang & Associates, Inc. ("WTA"), is an Ontario corporation that
serves as the general partner of the Hedge Fund. WTA's officers and directors are Tang and Hong Xiao, his wife.

9. Weizhen Tang Corp. ("WTC") is an Ontario corporation that, according to its
website (www.wtang.com). is primarily engaged in the management of private equity funds and hedge funds. WTC's officers and directors are Tang (chairman and secretary), his daughter Wenyi Tang (director and secretary), and Jiehua "Jay" Yu (officer).

10. WinWin Capital Management, LLC, (the "Adviser"), a Texas limited liability
company with its principal office in Plano, Texas, has been registered as an investment adviser with the Texas State Securities Board since July 2008. While Tang owns the Adviser, it is managed by Jiehua "Jay" Yu.

11. WinWin Capital Limited Partnership ("WinWin Partners"), a Texas limited
partnership with its principal office in Plano, Texas, was created to invest partnership funds in SEC v. Oversea Chinese Fund, L.P., et a/.

the Hedge Fund. The limited partners of WinWin Partners, located primarily in the Dallas, Texas, area are the individual investors who, along with investors directly solicited by Tang, are the victims of the fraud in this case. WinWin Partners' sole general partner is J.O.R & Associates, LLC.

。。。。

13. WinWin Capital Partners, L.P., a Delaware limited partnership authorized to do
business in the State of Texas, lists as its principal office the Adviser's address in Plano, Texas.
The general partner of WinWin Capital Partners, LP is the Adviser. A private offering
memorandum for WinWin Capital Partners, LP, dated July 1, 2008, states that the minimum
investment in WinWin Capital Partners, LP is $250,000. WinWin Capital Partners, LP, was
formed to provide Tang's U.S. investors with greater transparency over his investment decisions
using their funds. WinWin Capital Partners, L.P. is named as a relief defendant solely for the
purpose of obtaining equitable relief.

14. Bluejay Investment, LLC, d/b/a Vintage International Investment, LLC
("Bluejay Investment"), a Texas limited liability company, lists as its principal office the
Adviser's address in Plano, Texas. U.S. investor funds were diverted to an account in the name
of Bluejay Investment. Bluejay Investment is named as a relief defendant solely for the purpose of obtaining equitable relief.

BACKGROUND FACTS

15. Weizhen Tang, a Chinese Canadian living in the Greater Toronto Area, is a
prominent figure in the Chinese community in North America. In December 2001, Tang created
the Hedge Fund under the laws of the province of Ontario. Hedge Fund offering documents
provide that: (i) the Hedge Fund has been active since 2004; (ii) Tang is the trading manager and
WTA is the general partner; (iii) the offering started in May 2004; (iv) "prospected partners must
be qualified accredit (sic) investors only" [citing Rule 501 of Reg D]; (v) the minimum initial
investment in the Hedge Fund is $150,000; and (vi) "[b]ased on past performance ... the system
the Trading Manager will utilize has produced an average return of 32% per year for index and currencies."

16. According to the Hedge Fund's website (www.wtang.com). Tang, during the four
years since the Hedge Fund was established, achieved an "average annual return rate [of] over 40%" by:
? integrating stock indexes, foreign exchanges, and futures into reliable short-term
speculations;
? seeking "consistent returns with minimum risk: 1% weekly profit;" and
? keeping "99% of the total investment pool outside the market for safekeeping, while amplifying the remaining 1% with certain leverage.
Tang's purported investment strategy is to invest 99 percent of the total investment pool in conservative, out-of-the market investments like bonds and certificates of deposit and 1 percent of the investment pool in speculative short-term investments. The Hedge Fund provides investors with periodic account statements Via its website, and investors use personalized user names and passwords to monitor their accounts. The Hedge Fund is comprised of more than
200 investors who have collectively invested between $50 and $75 million. The Hedge Fund does not charge investors a fee on the first six percent of profit, but it charges a 25 percent "management" fee on any additional profit.

17. Since at least November 2007, Tang has directly and indirectly solicited U.S.
investors to invest in the Hedge Fund. At least two U.S. investors have directly invested in
Oversea Chinese Fund through Tang's website solicitation.

18. Tang has further indirectly solicited U.S. investors by causing the creation of
WinWin Capital Limitefcd Partners ("WinWin Partners") and by offering and selling limited
partnership interests in the entity. WinWin Partners' sole business is investing partnership
capital in the Hedge Fund. The minimum investment in WinWin Partners is $100,000 and
partnership interests are sold in units; each unit costing $50,000. Investors sign partnership
agreements with WinWin Partners, which set forth that the "purpose of the partnership is to
invest the capital of the Partnership in such investments as [JOR] shall determine in its sole
discretion to be advisable or advantageous to the Partnership." WinWin Partners funds were
held in a bank account, invested in a certificate of deposit or invested solely with the Hedge Fund.

19. The WinWin Partners' partnership agreement provides that JOR, as general
partner, does not charge a fee on the first 6 percent of profit, but charges a 25 percent fee on any
additional profit, mirroring the fee arrangement described on the Hedge Fund's website. JOR
was created in late 2006 and listed Jiehua "Jay" Yu, Xiaohong Peng, and Richard Gu as its
members. Effective January 1, 2007, Tang acquired from Yu, Gu, and Peng their ownership interests in JOR. Pursuant to a compensation agreement, Tang retained Yu, Gu, and Peng as managers ofJOR to manage the day-to-day operations ofWinWin Partners.

20. As of March 10, 2009, WinWin Partners raised almost $17.3 million from
investors in Texas and California. Even though Tang's U.S. investors were limited partners in WinWin Partners, Tang created an account for each investor on his website in Canada. Using this Internet access, each U.S. investor was shown an account that purported to represent the investor's current investment results, including daily and cumulative trading results. If a U.S. investor desired to withdraw some, or all, of the investment with Tang, a form was submitted to WinWin Partners to redeem the investor's interest in the Hedge Fund. These redemption requests were processed in Texas but were not paid unless Tang personally approved the redemption request. Once approved, a check ora wire transfer was arranged by WinWin Partners to deliver funds pursuant to the redemption request. Of the funds raised from investors, Tang returned approximately $8.4 million to investors, of which at least $700,000 was characterized as profits and used to compute management fees due to JOR. Nearly $9.6 million in investor principal remains unaccounted for.

。。。。。


22. On February 7, 2009, Tang sent an e-mail to all Hedge Fund investors,
acknowledging that the public demonstration had failed. Although Tang claimed not to have lost money during the demo, he conceded that the results were far from his stated goal of one percent per week. As an apparent result of the demonstration's failure, many investors lost confidence in his trading abilities and closed their accounts or attempted to withdraw large amounts of money
from the Hedge Fund. Tang informed investors that the Hedge Fund had insufficient assets from which to pay the withdrawal requests. And, Tang vowed to return all principal to investors within six months and noted that it would not affect the Hedge Fund's normal operation.

23. On February 27,2009, approximately 200 Hedge Fund investors met with Tang in
Toronto. Among the attendees at the meeting was a contingent of the Dallas-area investors. During the meeting, many investors confronted Tang about his repeated failures to honor withdrawal requests. In response, Tang admitted that (i) the Hedge Fund had no more money,
(ii) deposits into the Hedge Fund by new investors had been used to pay withdrawals and purported profits to earlier investors, and (iii) the information posted on the Hedge Fund website, showing the daily value of each investor's account, was false. Hedge Fund investors in the
Toronto area elected individuals to serve on a volunteer committee (the "Toronto Committee") to act on their behalf to investigate Tang's fraud. Likewise, the Dallas-area investors elected 12



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发表于 2010-11-19 02:27:57 | 显示全部楼层
SEC起诉的元件和中期协定见附件,,,
17714512056136f6770.pdf (470.02 KB)
fishhawk 发表于 2010-11-18 18:09 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif



给关心此案的朋友一点个人意见,我不是法律专家,懂法律的朋友可以纠正和补充。
1,SEC对唐是民事起诉而不是刑事正如FISHHAWK前面所说,主要原因是犯罪人及实体在加拿大而不是美国。SEC是将保护投资人作为最高优先,民事起诉已经能达到目的。SEC将唐及的加拿大公司列为第一被告,第二被告是美国DALLAS的WINWIN CAPITAL及其WINWIN CAPITAL的相关实体。显然WINWIN CAPITAL不是旁氏操作人,但要承担民事责任,所以一起起诉。

2,SEC4月起诉唐,OSC6月10日刑事控告唐12项重罪(注1),不是时间上的偶然。因为SEC一直在和OSC合作(注1)。相信OSC不仅收到了唐加拿大受害者的举报,而且和SEC密切沟通才会在6月刑事起诉唐。然后SEC在唐受到OSC的正式起诉后,在7月和唐达成了所谓的中期裁决(INTERLOCUTOTY JUDGEMENT). 有了一个中期结果后,法庭才能任命RECEIVER来RECOVER任何剩下的资金或任何隐藏的资金,这符合SEC保护投资者和挽回损失作为第一目标的宗旨。事实上,中期裁决后法庭很快就任命了TOMTONG作为美国这面的RECEIVER,现在已经冻结或找到了100万美元左右,追讨虚假利润的信件据悉也在进行中。

3,这份中期裁决共有12点,实际上是被告的认罪书。中期裁决第二点说“WITHOUT ADMITTING OR DENYING  THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE COMPLAINT玩的是法律上的文字游戏,实际上是说被告默认指控。后面的几点对被告更加苛刻。 第三点说的是被告同意法庭有权利决定是否返还虚假利润(ILL-GOTTEN PROFITS注意这是裁决上的原用词)和民事赔偿。而且被告嫌疑人不得争辩(ARGUE)没有违反联邦法律,被告不能挑战此仲裁的有效性。第五点说被告放弃上诉的权利。第六点被告完全是自愿达成协议,原告SEC没有胁迫,提供好处保证和诱惑原告。第九点SEC保留刑事诉讼的权利,被告不被屏蔽于刑事罪以外。第十条,被告不得公开直接或间接否认SEC的指控,如有违反,SEC可以推翻此中期裁决,重新起诉。唐为什麽要在这样的对自己非常不利的所谓和解上签字,因为他有罪。接受是他唯一的选择。他别无选择。

4,在加拿大这个对白领犯罪相对软弱的国家里,刑事起诉本身已经说明了事情的严重性。根据2009年省证监会报告,2008 至2009 年间,证监会共提起23起诉讼,涉及125名个人和公司。其中21起案件经证监会听审处理,只有2 起起诉于省法庭(注2)。前证监会司法部主任Joe Goria表示:“简单来说,对证监会对有明显欺诈和不良商业行为,特别是当投资者损失非常严重案件才会提起刑事指控。而行政听审的目的是剔除无良和不诚实人士以保护投资市场的完整性。”

注1:OSC charges 'Chinese Warren Buffett' with fraud
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1682062http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1682062[/url]

注2:为什么证监会对唐炜臻和邓越文采取不同法律行动?
http://www.fubaba.ca/viewthread.php?tid=4869&extra=page%3D7http://www.fubaba.ca/viewthread.php?tid=4869&extra=page%3D7[/url]
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发表于 2010-11-20 00:04:19 | 显示全部楼层
善有善报,恶有恶报
这个说法有问题,而且问题很严重
善报和恶报要看站在什么立场说
现在一些人说我是恶有恶报,很荒唐
我一直在做善事,华人社区我捐的钱最多
有人天天问我钱是谁的,这个重要吗?
捐献还要讲谁的钱?做好事不讲谁的钱,只要有钱就好
我从小就立志要做个大人物,什么是大人物?很多人不懂
大人物就是可以摸到天的人
我已经做到了,就在”峰会“的那天
在中国最高殿堂我得过奖,这也是做大人物要具备的
但是还总有一些人把我当坏人,说我诈骗,很可笑
大人物有诈骗的吗?
小人物一辈子也不会理解大人物
作为人上人我可以原谅他们,但是希望他们不要再胡闹了
我的目标不是做多伦多的市长,竞选市长只是热一下身
我的目标是做加拿大的总理
很多华人会为此而落泪,我就是要让你们高兴的落泪,加拿大的总理将是一位华人
我个子不是很高,长相很有气质,哪些长的贼眉鼠眼、尖嘴猴腮的人就不适合做大官,我做大官挺合适的。
努力吧,胜利一定属于我们。
唐纬臻 发表于 2010-11-20 00:00 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

我希望有机会投你一票。
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发表于 2010-11-24 22:20:40 | 显示全部楼层
普通人以为唐炜臻是骗子,其实是大英雄
是投资人的英雄,新移民的英雄,唐炜臻是全心全意的,也是最好的。没有人在投资人方面的努力和取得的成就做的比唐炜臻实质上更好、

好事,奇迹还在后头。唐炜臻要名不要利,好处全给你,却被毁誉。

目前反差很大,以后,总会统一的,意见一致的,希望在不久的将来,投资人的钱到手的时候,我就洗请了罪名。比谁都牛。
唐炜臻 发表于 2010-11-24 18:01 http://bbs.51.ca/images/common/back.gif

病得不轻。

。。。“是投资人的英雄,新移民的英雄,唐炜臻是全心全意的,也是最好的。没有人在投资人方面的努力和取得的成就做的比唐炜臻实质上更好”。。
那么客户的钱呢? 靠,没见过比你更不要脸的。
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发表于 2010-11-29 23:26:31 | 显示全部楼层
回复 561# 唐炜臻
唐炜臻在零八年基金己经巨额亏损时欺骗投资者说唐氏基金为何在金 融海啸中金枪不倒,
现在为了逃脱庞氏指控,又把一切推向金融海啸和投资者的挤兑。如果你唐伪证真没有虚假利润,能连续实现所谓百分之一的周回报,即使每一个客户都连本带利把钱取走,顶多把基金清零,怎末会出现挤兑?现在的事实是大部分客户血本无归。你怎么解释。
你的可恶之处在于不知道羞耻,不知道改悔。张口就说谎还振振有词,无耻之极。渣滓中的极品渣滓,去死吧!

解析唐炜臻为何在金融风暴中“金枪不倒”

加拿大信息娱乐网 anpopo.com 2008-9-22 来源: 财富俱乐部

在2008年的黑色 “9.15”,具有150年历史的美国第四大投资银行雷曼兄弟公司轰然倒下,给全球金融界带来巨大震撼,被美国前联储主席格林斯潘称为“百年一 遇”的金融危机在历时1年后不仅没有走向平息,而是投下更大的震撼弹。在这场罕见的急风暴雨中,在最危险的时刻,唐炜臻的金融投资不仅没有亏损,更没有像 许多人或机构那样倒下,却照样象平时一样按照预定目标:每周1%的稳定回报连续赢利,这不能不说是奇迹。大浪淘沙,只有强者才能在巨大的风暴中存 活,只有经过市场最严峻的考验的交易方法才能被华尔街认可。

自2006年以来,唐炜臻在经过一段人生事业的低潮后重新在北美的股市中崛起,出现了不管是牛市还是熊市,都保持连续稳定的盈利的丰收局面:在近三年每年都获得了年回报50%以上,其中2007年年回报高达90%以上。唐炜臻表示:2007年高达90%以上的年回报是超越常规的,2007年8月美国次贷危机爆发以来,在2007年10月我们及时地降低了每周回报率到我们的预定目标:每周1%,当时我们有部分客户不适应,想不通,因为突然从年回报90%降到年回报50%,这是自然的,有个心理适应过程。当时,我反复向客户解释:每周1%,即约50%的年回报已经很高了,已经是华尔街顶尖水平,巴菲特的年回报平均只有24%,关键是回报要连续稳定,要控制风险,不能翻船。让客户的资金不掉是一个投资管理者的最大责任,只有建立在不亏损的基础上的赢利才是有意义的,才能成功。今天的事实证明:我们是对的,一年多来,在这次巨大的金融风暴中,无数投资者倒下,许多对冲基金在巨浪中翻船,我们不仅没有亏损,而是按照我们的目标保持了连续稳定的赢利。在市场的深渊中,别人的危机就是我们的机会,今天我们迎来了无比轻松的日子,我们带领投资客户继续稳定地前进。

为什么大部分人在金融风暴中亏损,而唐炜臻的投资却能“任凭风吹浪打,我自闲庭信步”?他有什么秘诀?许多人好奇,从投资客户 甚至到金融界高层领导。其实并不神秘,他管理的资金99%以上并不在市场,每天只用不到1%的资金从市场索取利润,所以,再大的市场波动对他有利无弊,他的理念和市场智慧很独特,很多人并不理解。唐炜臻认为:普通中国人 90%不投资,他们在投资方面无知和害怕,投资者中90%的人是没有弄懂,搞不明白,弄懂的人90%贪心,再剩下的90%缺乏风险控制,没有人在追求连续稳定的回报,最后剩下的就是强者。使用杠杠是大部分投资者失败和亏损的主要原因之一,它使投资者的风险增加几倍到数十倍。我们设定每周1%的回报率,不是随意的,它的实质是控制波动幅度,控制风险,追求回报率风险比的最优化。每周回报率1%,按5天算就是每天回报率0.2%,市场综合指数(如道琼斯指数,纳斯达克斯指数)和外汇(美元货币)通常每天的市场波动简化估计约1%,为了控制风险在每天0.2%,我们在不用杠杠的前提下投入到市场的资金量约占总资金的1/5,即0.2,这样如果亏损,每天亏损量最多约占总资金的0.2%(1%x0.2= 0.2%),如果赢了,回报率也是0.2%,每天0.2%的回报率或者每周1%的回报率是通过控制亏损的波动幅度而得来的,它其实是非常简单的小学算术,真理就是这样简单,就像牛顿定律和爱因斯坦质能公式。补充一点,就是我们通过波动幅度选择市场,不炒个股,因为个股一天的波动幅度从小到大无法控制,很难控制风险,但市场指数和外汇美元盘的波动幅度就很适当。一般而言,外汇和指数日波动1%,股票5%,采用杠杠的相当于将波动幅度按比例放大,当大部分人在市场中采用杠杠将赢利和亏损风险同时放大,我们却将赢利和亏损风险缩小,缩小到一个合适的比例____每天0.2%(或每周1%),以致于在市场的风暴中也不会突然翻船;而以每周1%的回报率,只要连续,通过时间累计,有一天我们就能到达巴菲特一样的财富的峰顶,所以每周1%回报是理想与现实的结合,这就是我要一再告诉我的投资客户和股民,大家应该有充分的信心大胆地跟着我们往前走。

唐炜臻的投资达到今日的境界不是一夕而就,而是通过十几 年的摸索,经过市场无数风浪的磨炼,不断总结经验教训而成。据唐炜臻介绍,他在1995 年左右,也就是他投资生涯的第一个阶段,他就做到了每周1%的回报,那时他炒互惠基金,年回报30%到50%,当时就为每个月订了回报目标,并按目标操作,但那时是凭直觉,还没有对市场有深刻理解。后来,不能炒互惠基金后,进入股票市场,偏离了正确的轨道,犯了大部分人容易犯的错误,即没有控制风险,走了一段曲折的道路。有一天,他突然醒悟,重新回到正确的道路,正式确定了每周1%回报的赢利目标,从而踏上了康庄大道。今天,唐炜臻的投资,继承了巴菲特连续稳定回报的投资理念,从大家的智慧中提炼了庄家思想,并结合自己每周1%回报的目标,形成了自己的短线交易风格。当然,要具体实现每天0.2%的回报,还与唐炜臻的市场经验,细微的交易技巧以及成熟的心理素质有关,但每周1%回报的目标的确定基本奠定了市场胜势,它的实质是克服了人性的恐惧和贪婪:我要得少,得的多,而且不会丢掉老本。
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